Obama Death Threats...

[Titan]

Also... notice that the past two elections didn't warrant this response from the Democrats/lowers of the election.  We grieved and got on with our lives.  Vocal about our disappointment, but I don't recall death threats, children chanting, property destroyed, and crosses being burned.

You seriously don't remember people saying "If Bush gets elected I'm moving to Canada"? I remember hearing death threats. Of course there are racial undertones from a minority but you can't pin those on Republicans. I didn't vote for Obama because I believe his economic policies are unwise. I hope that he leads America well but I'm skeptical on many things.

[Tom62]

You seriously don't remember people saying "If Bush gets elected I'm moving to Canada"? I remember hearing death threats. Of course there are racial undertones from a minority but you can't pin those on Republicans. I didn't vote for Obama because I believe his economic policies are unwise. I hope that he leads America well but I'm skeptical on many things.

I also share your doubts, Titan. Both candidates of the presidential election, were very weak in their economical knowledge. Hopefully Obama will be able to get some experienced people aboard, who know how the economical crisis can be turned around. On the other hand, I think that Obama cannot keep his promise, that he'll be able to create millions of jobs in just a short period of time. That is just wishful thinking.

Of course there were racial undertones at the election. I believe that at least 90% of the black voters, voted for Obama because he is (half) black. I also believe that many white Americans didn't vote for Obama, because of his skin color. There are a couple of reasons why I wouldn't have voted for McCain. 1. his lack of economical knowledge, 2. Sarah Palin, 3. his age, 4. his health, 5. the negative campaign, which was more about how to paint Obama black (no pun intended) than about how to solve the real problems of the people and finally the ugly,ultra nationalistic views presented at the Republican rallies ("USA über alles", "We are the Übermenschen", "The world must be lead by the USA", etc. etc.).

[rlrose328]

You seriously don't remember people saying "If Bush gets elected I'm moving to Canada"? I remember hearing death threats. Of course there are racial undertones from a minority but you can't pin those on Republicans. I didn't vote for Obama because I believe his economic policies are unwise. I hope that he leads America well but I'm skeptical on many things.

Yes, I DO remember people saying they'd move if he were elected... I was one of them.  And if my economic situation had been better, I would have done it, too.  But we had no one to sponsor us in our move, so we couldn't.

No, I don't remember any death threats against Bush... if there were the number there are now against Obama, I think I'd remember.  And I was on the losing side, so I think I'd remember if there were death threats from my fellow losers.

I did vote for Obama... and while he wasn't anywhere near the best choice, he was the best of those available to choose from.  I wouldn't vote for McCain for the exact list of reasons Tom62 stated.

I do agree that the majority of blacks voted for him because he's black, unfortunately.  That was evident by their response to his win.  And I do agree that a great number of white didn't vote for him for the same reason, which was evidenced by the crowd reactions at Palin rallies the month before the election, at least videos of which that were posted on news outlets and the few that I caught broadcast live.

We did the best we could and now, we'll see how it all plays out.  I've got more hope now that I did for the past 8 years, though.

[Chemistry08]

Also... notice that the past two elections didn't warrant this response from the Democrats/lowers of the election.  We grieved and got on with our lives.  Vocal about our disappointment, but I don't recall death threats, children chanting, property destroyed, and crosses being burned.

As others have said, one cannot point the finger at the entire republican party for the actions of a small group of bigots. The article posted had nothing to do with politics per-se, it was all about racism in America. The vast majority of the people sending out the threats are not doing it in the name of the republican party. That's just like saying Hitler and Stalin killed in the name of atheism. As an atheist yourself, I would hope that you can empathize with the Obama supporting republicans like myself. No, I did not vote for Barack Obama, however, he is my president-elec and I will not do to him what the left did to President Bush.

My view on Obama is the same as on religion. All based on hope and not reality. Sure, in a perfect world one could practice diplomacy and reason with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or strip the United States of guns but do we live in a perfect world!? Our presidential election ended up being a civil rights movement and those that did vote based on political credentials were tipped heavily by the media.

Yeah, I may disagree with Baracks policies but I will never be seen protesting against him or flying a "impeach Obama" bumper sticker. I have hope now too, and I will stand behind our president-elect until the end of his term (maybe two).

I too feel that the country will be in absolute turmoil if anything happens to Barack Obama. It could very easily spark another civil war and I believe it is necessary to take precautions with you and your families just in case. Regardless of political and religious believes I care for everyone and would never hope to see an assassination.

Lastly, this is my first post and second day scrolling through this forum. I have been to other forums and disgusted with the arguing and hatred I have seen. This forum is a breath of fresh air, thank you all for being here and making it so great!

[Kyuuketsuki]

Yeah, I may disagree with Baracks policies but I will never be seen protesting against him or flying a "impeach Obama" bumper sticker. I have hope now too, and I will stand behind our president-elect until the end of his term (maybe two).

Good for you mate, that is what democracy is all about isn't it?

Lastly, this is my first post and second day scrolling through this forum. I have been to other forums and disgusted with the arguing and hatred I have seen. This forum is a breath of fresh air, thank you all for being here and making it so great!

Welcome to the forum, you should post something in "Introductions"

Kyu

[mauiweddings120]

Its a nice post..thanks for writing it.

[Ihateyoumike]

As others have said, one cannot point the finger at the entire republican party for the actions of a small group of bigots. The article posted had nothing to do with politics per-se, it was all about racism in America. The vast majority of the people sending out the threats are not doing it in the name of the republican party. That's just like saying Hitler and Stalin killed in the name of atheism. As an atheist yourself, I would hope that you can empathize with the Obama supporting republicans like myself. No, I did not vote for Barack Obama, however, he is my president-elec and I will not do to him what the left did to President Bush.

Finally, a voice of reason. Well said, Chemistry. I think one of the problems is that democrats have become so used to blaming republicans (Bush) for everything that they do not know how to do otherwise. I do not consider myself a democrat or republican purely because it's simply one more way to separate myself from others. Just like I will not immediately hate someone due to their religion, race, or anything else, I will not immediately hate someone due to their political party.
Blaming republicans for the death threats against Obama is no different than blaming the democrats for acts of domestic terrorism by the animal liberation front.

As for Obama, I'm still hopeful that he will be able to get the job done. Not because he is a republican, democrat, half-black, christian, muslim, or anything else, but because he is our president. What other choice do I have? I can either support him, hate him, or be indifferent. I see no reason not to simply support him until he (hopefully he doesn't) proves that he deserves otherwise.

[Tanker]

While I know this part of the conversation has passed I would like to point out, that by the very deffinion posted voting for someone based on their race is racist. It assumes that a candidate is superior to his rival simply because of his racial heitage and taking it into account little else. So yes, voting for someone to solely or primarily bassed on the color of their skin instead of the content of theircaracter, to paraphrase MLK Jr., is indeed racism. Or do you not think, that believing someone is better or worse because of skin color is racism?

[Jolly Sapper]

I'll vouch for knowing a person that didn't care much for the previous President and openly voiced opinions/descriptions of unpleasantness befalling him.  She's ancient and bit crazy, so I'm thinking she wasn't going to be much of a threat.

Now, what I don't remember happening during the last administration, were FBI or Secret Service agents busting an actual group of folks who had a plan and the equipment to actually do some damage.

I think one of the problems is that democrats have become so used to blaming republicans (Bush) for everything that they do not know how to do otherwise.

Opposition for the sake of opposition, just like the founders of this country wanted

[Ninteen45]

This is all par for the course...