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Started by En_Route, May 03, 2012, 08:06:01 PM

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En_Route

Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them (Orwell).

Tank

The poo has definitely hit the propeller and it's going to fly everywhere.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

markmcdaniel

A few more such incidents and the Catholic laity may wall decide that they no longer need the Catholic hierarchy I don't think that I will weep much if it should this should come to pass.
It appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against Christianity and theism produce hardly any effect on the public; and freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds which follows from the advance of science - Charles Darwin

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the object of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a god, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. - Albert Einstein

Religion is a by product of fear. For much of human history, it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary? Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity. - Arther C. Clarke

Faith means not wanting to know what is true. - Friedrich Nietzsche

Recusant

Excellent article; thank you for posting it, En_Route. A couple of little details piqued my cultural curiosity. When the dirt-bag is described as ". . . this tea-drinking, Marie biscuit-eating . . ." what exactly is being conveyed? Is there some connotation of him having a nefarious nature, or is it exactly the opposite, i. e. as a eater of Marie biscuits and drinker of tea, he was well camouflaged? Second, do you happen to know what is the origin of the phrase "an ordinary 4x2"?
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Asmodean

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Recusant

#5
Quote from: Asmodean on May 24, 2012, 10:22:05 PM
Quote from: Recusant on May 24, 2012, 09:56:54 PM
"an ordinary 4x2"?
That sounds like a standard support beam.

I agree, but is it a recognized idiom in Ireland, when speaking of a normal everyday person, to describe them as a piece of construction lumber?

Quotean ordinary man that's walking the streets - an ordinary 4x2.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Asmodean

Quote from: Recusant on May 24, 2012, 10:34:59 PM
I agree, but is it standard in Ireland, when speaking of a normal everyday person, to describe them as a piece of construction lumber?

Here, it is not that uncommon to apply paper formats to people, for instance by calling someone an A4 person... Same thing, no?
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Recusant

#7
I didn't know that; thanks Asmodean. I do agree that it's similar, assuming that your earlier idea regarding the meaning of "4x2" is correct.  

So, an "A4" person is a normal everyday person. Do people in Norway use any other paper sizes to describe people?


EDIT: Apologies to En_Route for this derail. My curiosity got the better of me.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Crow

Quote from: Recusant on May 24, 2012, 09:56:54 PM
do you happen to know what is the origin of the phrase "an ordinary 4x2"?

I have no idea and was currious myself and asked all my Irish (northern and proper ;)) mates and none of them had heard of the phrase before. It might just be a regional or generational phrase.
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En_Route

Quote from: Recusant on May 24, 2012, 10:55:37 PM
I didn't know that; thanks Asmodean. I do agree that it's similar, assuming that your earlier idea regarding the meaning of "4x2" is correct.  

So, an "A4" person is a normal everyday person. Do people in Norway use any other paper sizes to describe people?


EDIT: Apologies to En_Route for this derail. My curiosity got the better of me.

No need to apologise for breathing new life into this moribund topic, least of all to a chap most of whose contributions are to the derail thread. I am Irish,  and can confirm that I have not encountered this colloquialism in my puff.
Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them (Orwell).

Asmodean

Quote from: Recusant on May 24, 2012, 10:55:37 PM
Do people in Norway use any other paper sizes to describe people?
Not unless they work for a printer, really... But yes, an A4 person usually means a very average Joe OR someone who does their best to conform to some set ideal of normality.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.