The Mac thread

[ThinkAnarchy]

or accidentally click a link that automatically downloads a file.

Why have you disabled the "confirm download"-prompter if you are prone to doing that?  ???

Mine does prompt, but that still doesn't prevent me from accidentally accepting it sometimes. Than I cancel it, but some of the files are so small they finish downloading within a second. 

[ThinkAnarchy]

If you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate.  It's a brilliant easily-configurable editor.  As a math guy, I mainly use it to compose LaTeX documents, but it has bundles for everything, and it's got good documentation too.

Have you had a problem with TextMate freezing while coding Java Script? I have been doing some NewBoston tutorials and the program started to freeze while trying to do "for loops" and "while loops" . Granted my code was a little messed up at times, but sometimes it would simply freeze by pressing tab to get {

}

Even with terrible code, it shouldn't freeze though, simply not show anything in preview mode. I still have 25 days left of the free trial, but can't have a program that is going to freeze whenever I mistype java script. I have been happy with the XHTML and CSS capabilities, but it seems piss poor dealing with java script.

Maybe I need to dl a java script pack to fix the problem, but I don't know. I do know it's starting off on a bad foot though.

[Asmodean]

It could be your java installation. When compiling, freezes can be due to while(true)-like loops, but before you even consider compiling... Different story.

[ThinkAnarchy]

It could be your java installation. When compiling, freezes can be due to while(true)-like loops, but before you even consider compiling... Different story.

Yeah, it has simply been freezing while typing the code in textmate or freezing when I attempt to "web preview" the code through textmate. I'm not even using an external browser, only the program. I think I will probably have to look for a new program, or for a third party extension that might fix the problem. From what I've been reading, TextMate doesn't update their software very often, and I don't want to spend $50 to find out later it freezes with other codes.

I will reinstall the program tomorrow to see if that fixes it, but I'm not optimistic. I'm just happy I haven't paid for the program yet. 

[Asmodean]

Just for the giggles, do a re-install of your Java SDK too

[keithpenrod]

If you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate.  It's a brilliant easily-configurable editor.  As a math guy, I mainly use it to compose LaTeX documents, but it has bundles for everything, and it's got good documentation too.

Have you had a problem with TextMate freezing while coding Java Script? I have been doing some NewBoston tutorials and the program started to freeze while trying to do "for loops" and "while loops" . Granted my code was a little messed up at times, but sometimes it would simply freeze by pressing tab to get {

}

Even with terrible code, it shouldn't freeze though, simply not show anything in preview mode. I still have 25 days left of the free trial, but can't have a program that is going to freeze whenever I mistype java script. I have been happy with the XHTML and CSS capabilities, but it seems piss poor dealing with java script.

Maybe I need to dl a java script pack to fix the problem, but I don't know. I do know it's starting off on a bad foot though.

I've never used TextMate for JavaScript. But there is a forum for support with TextMate. I don't remember the link, but it's on their site somewhere. They're pretty good about giving responses within a day or two at the most. I'd recommend posting there. I've never had it freeze on me.

[Tom62]

I've got a Mac as well (a 2010 27" iMac). I love the hardware, with the exception of the tiny Bluetooth keyboard and magic mouse. The OS on it is OK, but nothing really special or fancy.  Like any OS, it has its strengths, but also its quirks. The Apple applications however are pretty limited. It is OK for standard users, but if you want something more fancy or powerful, you quickly move over to other non Apple software (like Microsoft Office or Adobe Photoshop).

[keithpenrod]

I've got a Mac as well (a 2010 27" iMac). I love the hardware, with the exception of the tiny Bluetooth keyboard and magic mouse. The OS on it is OK, but nothing really special or fancy.  Like any OS, it has its strengths, but also its quirks. The Apple applications however are pretty limited. It is OK for standard users, but if you want something more fancy or powerful, you quickly move over to other non Apple software (like Microsoft Office or Adobe Photoshop).

I'm sure that Apple's software has all the functionality of MS Office, but that you're just more familiar with MS, so you find iWorks more difficult to use. And, have you used Apple's equivalent of Photoshop (Aperture), or are you comparing it with iPhoto?

[Crow]

I'm sure that Apple's software has all the functionality of MS Office, but that you're just more familiar with MS, so you find iWorks more difficult to use. And, have you used Apple's equivalent of Photoshop (Aperture), or are you comparing it with iPhoto?

Aperture is more like photoshop elements than the standard photoshop or extended version, for professional use photoshop is really the only application available.

[Asmodean]

for professional use photoshop is really the only application available.

What about that Corel thing?

[Buddy]

for professional use photoshop is really the only application available.

What about that Corel thing?

I think SAI is program available for windows.

[Crow]

for professional use photoshop is really the only application available.

What about that Corel thing?

Wow that's a company I haven't heard mentioned for a long time. I remember the painter application being very good for imitating the aesthetic qualities of various paints easily, and is probably used by a niche group in the digital drawing profession. But they don't really have a program that can be compared to photoshop, Painter is what it saws on the tin, Draw is more like Illustrator, and there may be other programs but never heard of them.

[Tom62]

I'm sure that Apple's software has all the functionality of MS Office, but that you're just more familiar with MS, so you find iWorks more difficult to use. And, have you used Apple's equivalent of Photoshop (Aperture), or are you comparing it with iPhoto?

I do have Aperture, but prefer the more powerful combination of Adobe Lightroom with Photoshop. Never gotten around so much into using other office products than MS-Office. Microsoft set the standard and all the others just follow (with little or no success). I'm told that Keynote is better than Powerpoint, but since the last time I made a presentation was more than 10 years ago, I don't really care.

[keithpenrod]

I'm sure that Apple's software has all the functionality of MS Office, but that you're just more familiar with MS, so you find iWorks more difficult to use. And, have you used Apple's equivalent of Photoshop (Aperture), or are you comparing it with iPhoto?

I do have Aperture, but prefer the more powerful combination of Adobe Lightroom with Photoshop. Never gotten around so much into using other office products than MS-Office. Microsoft set the standard and all the others just follow (with little or no success). I'm told that Keynote is better than Powerpoint, but since the last time I made a presentation was more than 10 years ago, I don't really care.

I don't know if it's fair to say that MS set the standard.  WordPerfect was a very good word processor, and it was out a few years before MS Word.  Lotus 1-2-3 was a great spreadsheet, also predating MS Excel by a couple years.  You might be able to make the claim that MS was the first to compile word processor, spreadsheet, and presentation into one bundle.  But you can't really say that everyone else copied them, since there's obviously software that was around earlier by other companies. 

I think what is fair to say, and seems to be the case in most industries, is that competing companies all making similar software encouraged each other to improve their products because of the competition.  MS Word improved just as WordPerfect did, and so on.  Microsoft certainly didn't have a monopoly on innovation in software development.

[AnimatedDirt]

My whole issue is not MS vs. Apple as I don't see MS as a competitor to Apple.  My issue is PC vs. Mac.  Whatever software works on either is not the issue to me.  It's the system these work on.  To me, Mac simply works better with less frustrations and complexity.

I have friends in the music and film industry.  These seem to use the Apple line predominantly, but not exclusively.  I've had a few tell me they've worked on both PC and Mac in the industry and it seems the preference is Mac.

Maybe it is the case that in the sciences (as The Big Bang Theory seems to joke at), PC's work better.  I don't know.