I am a Christian.

[Tom62]

All I'm hearing here is some vague nonsense. There is no proof that anything in nature was created by a creator. All evidents point to natural processes that have occured over millions or billions of years. Should there have been a God, why didn't he get his message properly across? All what is written in the Bible is nothing more than the ramblings of a bunch of superstious goatherders, who had not a single clue about how the world turns. There is so much nonsense and inconsistancies in the Bible that you can't take it seriously. Christianity can in fact been seen as the bastard son of ancient religious that preceded it. Just add bit of egyptian mythology, some greek and roman gods, spiced up with fake jewish believes and add a sauce of early christian forgeries (like the Roman letters of Paul), etc. and there it is. The Bible therefore adds nothing new, nothing groundbraking and is certainly not the word of God. The chances that Jesus was a real historical figure are also pretty slim. Apart from the Bible there is no historical evidence that this guy actually existed. The stories about him in the Bible were written many decennia after his death by people who had never met the Jesus character in person. To justify the existence of Jesus then many christians refer to books that were again written decennia (even centuries) after Jesus death and that were clevery forged by early christian "historians". If you separate fact from fiction than nothing remains. Even if you take the Bible serious then there is no escape from the fact that this Jesus figure was not the all-loving mr. Good Guy. As a matter of fact he resembles more like a fundamentist muslim zeolot than the  good-natured hippie that all christians seem to love. Definitively not someone who you want to get into your "heart, even if that is physically possible (which is not).

[Evolved]

mattreed wrote:
I love biology, chemistry, botany, the geological records have astounding information, physics are great fun, I'm in a constant battle to defy them, I made a magnetic vortex motor that can overcome its own friction, I'm going to use it as a model for how magnetic vortexes and electrical vortexes when in equilibrium can actually attain anti-gravity, fun stuff! I believe that all of that stuff is designed by God, the working matter of the universe, I believe is a crafted living design, and we can describe it and study it and understand the rainbow, but we can only imitate the process of the rainbow, we cannot create the process itself.

What amazes me is that you seem to like the field of science, and perhaps you may even apply part or all of the scientific method at times, yet it seems as though you missed the fact that you can't apply this method to investigate the existence of your creator.  Is god exempt?

When it comes down to it, believing in nothing at all is just as extreme as believing in everything, and believing in a middle ground is impossible, and personally I think that God's existence makes perfect sense.

Again I defer to the scientific method.  You don't start out believing your hypothesis, do you?  You start with a blank slate - believing in nothing.

[rlrose328]

Theist: There is a god.  I don't need physical evidence or anything, I just know it, in my heart, to be true.

Atheist: How can you claim to know that?  I don't see how anyone could possibly know that.  I certainly don't know that.

Theist: You atheists are so arrogant!

Atheist: Um, color me confused.....

Theist: Look, I just know it to be true, okay, I can't tell you why or how.  But you better believe me, on my word, because I'm right!!!!

Atheist: And you think I'm arrogant?!?

Steve, you forgot the "STOP PERSECUTING ME" part.  

[mrwinkie1330]

This was touching. And difficult to get through.

I can't believe you say you have logic.

Then say that since you can't explain how the descriptions of science came to be, you must put your trust in an intangible being that needs even more explanation than the original concept.

You mentioned human reproduction.  How does "God makes the process work" explain it any better than "the process works."?

Also, you say that you can't create anything.  This, to me, is sad.  Who created god?  Did god just always exist? If this is okay to you, then why can't you be okay with other things just "always existing?"  Like the Universe.

Evolution is not random, and this completely destroys any validity you established.  A bird doesn't decide to grow a longer beak, that is retarded.  The species reproduces normally and the most successful traits survive.  If a long beak is necessary to survive, the longest beaked birds will survive, thus making further generations have longer beaks.  I am not claiming to be an expert of evolution, as I have never studied it... It just makes logical sense to me, but I think you should research it more before making ridiculous claims.

If you to call yourself a man of logic and reason, you must see the incredible errors in syntax in your post.  The existence of god would simply strike up a million unanswerable questions for every one it answers, which defeats your proposed purpose- God as an explanation to the unexplainable.

I pity you that you saw the joys of godlessness and cowered away from it because of the inability to think logically.  

You will be in my prayers.  If i believed in that garbage.

[pjkeeley]

[Will]

I concur with pj. I prefer to be factual in conversations like this because it's easy to allow emotion to get the better of one's self. Thus my lengthy and (what I think are) meticulous answers.

Let's represent atheism proudly.

[johnnyk]

It does seem like the power and information come from outside, like from a god or a source. But that's because sometimes our brain is like a valve, opening and closing off streams of information...It only seems like there's a god sometimes.