Atheists Fear Accountability, judgement etc...

[impuzzled]

I have read enough of these postings to realize that the majority of athiests here are only here out of fear of judgement, accountability, responability, commitment and out of just sheer ignorance.

 I am a happy Christian and that has alot to offer in this world which is constantly nudged out of control by the lack of insight and values that are spawned from lack of understanding that, God gave us all a choice. Obviously there are a great number of people on this site who are continuously making the wrong ones.

 Jesus died for our sins and I commit them all the time. The reason I am not an athiest is based on the experiences I have had with Faith. God waits for us all and I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks that this so-called freedom they are experiencing leaves them feeling a little empty and useless. C'mon, You know it does!

This post is a split from:
http://www.happyatheistforum.com/viewto ... highlight=  
-laetusatheos

[McQ]

I have read enough of these postings to realize that the majority of athiests here are only here out of fear of judgement, accountability, responability, commitment and out of just sheer ignorance.

 I am a happy Christian and that has alot to offer in this world which is constantly nudged out of control by the lack of insight and values that are spawned from lack of understanding that, God gave us all a choice. Obviously there are a great number of people on this site who are continuously making the wrong ones.

 Jesus died for our sins and I commit them all the time. The reason I am not an athiest is based on the experiences I have had with Faith. God waits for us all and I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks that this so-called freedom they are experiencing leaves them feeling a little empty and useless. C'mon, You know it does!

The title of the thread is, "What is a Happy Atheist to You?", not "Let me tell you Why You Are Not Really Happy."

Your post, impuzzled is one of ignorance and lack of insight, just the opposite of what you said you have read. If you have read the postings here by most of us, you would realize we absolutely do NOT fear judgment or accountability. How can you be so absolutely thick as to not get that atheists do not believe in god, therefore, do not fear accountability to god. You don't fear what does not exist.

As for ignorance, just what is it do you think we are ignorant of? Scripture?
Test us then. You'll find you have met your match in that category, I'm afraid.

What experiences have you had with faith that keeps you a christian? We're curious.

As for feeling empty and useless, you'll have to find that elsewhere too. Our lives have purpose and meaning. We are not slaves to an imaginary sky pixie. Where is the meaning of being beholden to an imaginary being?

[tacoma_kyle]

Jesus died for our sins

What about all these younger children that get beaten, raped, and treated in ways that make Jesus in The Passion look like a walk in the park?

I dont recall that shit happening to him.

All your god bullshit is so vague and unspecific. If the bible explains all, then find the words 'proton, neutron, electron and quark' in it with proper references to how it works. No, 'god made us in 'X' days' doesnt cut it. Just one of the many things the bible lacks when it is said to explain so much.






Sorry McQ. I really dont give a shit about this guy, nor his repetitive stories that make complete irrational sense.






Empty and useless. Hmmm.....if we are empty and useless, whats your use home-boy? That---I am interested in. Well only if it goes deeper than 'to serve god.' (which makes no sense as why you wouldnt start and end in heaven in the first place...there would be no controversy and EVERYONE would be happy...wow, wouldn't that be nice.)

[impuzzled]

I have read enough of these postings to realize that the majority of athiests here are only here out of fear of judgement, accountability, responability, commitment and out of just sheer ignorance.

 I am a happy Christian and that has alot to offer in this world which is constantly nudged out of control by the lack of insight and values that are spawned from lack of understanding that, God gave us all a choice. Obviously there are a great number of people on this site who are continuously making the wrong ones.

 Jesus died for our sins and I commit them all the time. The reason I am not an athiest is based on the experiences I have had with Faith. God waits for us all and I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks that this so-called freedom they are experiencing leaves them feeling a little empty and useless. C'mon, You know it does!

The title of the thread is, "What is a Happy Atheist to You?", not "Let me tell you Why You Are Not Really Happy."

Your post, impuzzled is one of ignorance and lack of insight, just the opposite of what you said you have read. If you have read the postings here by most of us, you would realize we absolutely do NOT fear judgment or accountability. How can you be so absolutely thick as to not get that atheists do not believe in god, therefore, do not fear accountability to god. You don't fear what does not exist.

As for ignorance, just what is it do you think we are ignorant of? Scripture?
Test us then. You'll find you have met your match in that category, I'm afraid.

What experiences have you had with faith that keeps you a christian? We're curious.

As for feeling empty and useless, you'll have to find that elsewhere too. Our lives have purpose and meaning. We are not slaves to an imaginary sky pixie. Where is the meaning of being beholden to an imaginary being?

impuzzled, If you click on "disable BBCode in this post" it will make the quote system not work properly.  Try not to do that again, and make sure that you add new content when you create a new post. I am going to split your posts and related posts off into your their own thread so that this one can stay clean -laetusatheos

[SteveS]

Hey impuzzled - when you type your post, you can click the "Preview" button to make sure it renders the way you intend it to.  It looks like one of your quote tags is off, and it makes it very hard to tell what you are responding to and what you are responding with.

I believe these are your words, so I will respond to them:

Jesus died for our sins and I commit them all the time. The reason I am not an athiest is based on the experiences I have had with Faith. God waits for us all and I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks that this so-called freedom they are experiencing leaves them feeling a little empty and useless. C'mon, You know it does!

I would say that the idea that Jesus dies for our sins in unsubstantiated --- for one thing, if there are no gods then there can be no sin.  And what are you to do with all the opinions, presented firsthand, that we as atheists do not end up feeling "a little empty and useless"?  You just say "You know it does" - do you think these people are lying?

I do not feel empty, and I certainly don't feel useless.

[McQ]

I have read enough of these postings to realize that the majority of athiests here are only here out of fear of judgement, accountability, responability, commitment and out of just sheer ignorance.

 I am a happy Christian and that has alot to offer in this world which is constantly nudged out of control by the lack of insight and values that are spawned from lack of understanding that, God gave us all a choice. Obviously there are a great number of people on this site who are continuously making the wrong ones.

 Jesus died for our sins and I commit them all the time. The reason I am not an athiest is based on the experiences I have had with Faith. God waits for us all and I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks that this so-called freedom they are experiencing leaves them feeling a little empty and useless. C'mon, You know it does!

The title of the thread is, "What is a Happy Atheist to You?", not "Let me tell you Why You Are Not Really Happy."

Your post, impuzzled is one of ignorance and lack of insight, just the opposite of what you said you have read. If you have read the postings here by most of us, you would realize we absolutely do NOT fear judgment or accountability. How can you be so absolutely thick as to not get that atheists do not believe in god, therefore, do not fear accountability to god. You don't fear what does not exist.

As for ignorance, just what is it do you think we are ignorant of? Scripture?
Test us then. You'll find you have met your match in that category, I'm afraid.

What experiences have you had with faith that keeps you a christian? We're curious.

As for feeling empty and useless, you'll have to find that elsewhere too. Our lives have purpose and meaning. We are not slaves to an imaginary sky pixie. Where is the meaning of being beholden to an imaginary being?

Nothing new came through with this post, impuzzled. If you're having difficulty with posting, let me or laetusatheos (or any veteren member) know and we'll help you figure out how to post using quotes. It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

[ShimShamSam]

Hey I'm new to this, but I'm offended by impuzzled's comments at the beginning of this. I just started, and if I may I'd like to give my reasons as to why I'm doing so.

I'm not here "out of fear of judgement, accountability, responability, commitment". I'm here because here I can find sane individuals who will at least entertain an idea before dismissing it. The reason I'm on these forums is to find a sense of acceptance and understanding which I can not in my own community. I'm sure many atheists here know the feeling of being the outsider or being ambushed and debated by several Christians (though I usually win)

[winterbottom]

Hey I'm new to this, but I'm offended by impuzzled's comments at the beginning of this.

Believers have to imagine all sorts of things to justify their beliefs.

[Will]

I have read enough of these postings to realize that the majority of athiests here are only here out of fear of judgement, accountability, responability, commitment and out of just sheer ignorance.

Wow. We are here out of a sense of comrodory with other free thinkers, not out of fear. If we were so fearful, why do you suppose there would be pages of dialogue after a theist creeps on the site to attack us? No, we have no issue with taking people to task for their ignorance here at all. As for accountability, one of the wonderful things about being atheist, or rather not being a theist, is that we are accountable to ourselves instead of puff the magic dragon or Zeus. We have actual authority over ourselves and can change our behavior of our own accord. It's brilliant, actually, to be the author of one's own destiny.

I am a happy Christian and that has alot to offer in this world which is constantly nudged out of control by the lack of insight and values that are spawned from lack of understanding that, God gave us all a choice. Obviously there are a great number of people on this site who are continuously making the wrong ones.

Atheists have real morals, Christians have a book. What happens when the book is wrong, such as when it supports slavery, child molestation, war, murder, torture, etc? Do you abandon your morals and the book, or do you become the a monster?

As atheists, we can also author our moral codes. We don't have an ancient set of myths to adhere to, so we can be purely moral creatures of our own accord.

Jesus died for our sins and I commit them all the time.

There is no evidence that the Jesus of the Bible ever lived.

The reason I am not an athiest is based on the experiences I have had with Faith. God waits for us all and I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks that this so-called freedom they are experiencing leaves them feeling a little empty and useless. C'mon, You know it does!

I would rather have the freedom to make my own decisions about the world than have them preached to me by a parent figure from 2000 years ago.

[Mister Joy]

Jesus died for our sins and I commit them all the time. The reason I am not an athiest is based on the experiences I have had with Faith. God waits for us all and I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks that this so-called freedom they are experiencing leaves them feeling a little empty and useless. C'mon, You know it does!

I've never heard anything so patronising. Prepare to have the favour returned.

You have bi-polar disorder, a great love of cats and a facial disfigurement. I deduced this from looking at your age. Also, just to be extra-convincing: C'mon, you know it's true, even if it isn't!

Seriously though, this is the etiquette in civilised society: make statement ===> substantiate *pat pat*. You should become accustomed to it because if you don't, then everything you say is effortlessly refuted... put it this way: train a parrot to say "No, you're wrong" whenever you speak to it, then try to convert it to Christianity. See who comes out on top.

Because of this, when you say "I have read enough of these postings" I'm forced not to believe you. And if you have read any posts then they've clearly had nothing to do with the manufacturing of your own. In fact, I doubt you did either. It's a time-old formula: always the same trundling parade of lethargic assertions, occasionally rearranged into a different order (check out posts by other brief bible-bashing visitors!). In fact I bet you had these accusations lined up before you'd even found this website. They read like something you and a flock of fellow undead have spent 2 hours, every day, chanting in unison over and over just to make sure you believed it all enough to get into heaven.

[SteveS]

train a parrot to say "No, you're wrong" whenever you speak to it, then try to convert it to Christianity. See who comes out on top.

 Dude - that was awesome.  Cripes, I'm still chuckling....

[Death?]

very interesting, its like asking us are we scared to go to court??

[Ashe]

I have read enough of these postings to realize that the majority of athiests here are only here out of fear of judgement, accountability, responability, commitment and out of just sheer ignorance.

I have not been at this forum long enough to judge what the majority of atheists here feel or believe, but I will tentatively disagree. Perhaps I should just ask you to substantiate this belief. Why do you think they are this way? What have you read to suggest this?

I am a happy Christian and that has alot to offer in this world which is constantly nudged out of control by the lack of insight and values that are spawned from lack of understanding that, God gave us all a choice. Obviously there are a great number of people on this site who are continuously making the wrong ones.

And I am a happy atheist. What is your point? I know happy Christians, Muslims, Jews, agnostics, atheists...I've not yet seen evidence that Christians are the only ones to have happiness.
Furthermore, I see no reason why you can so broadly claim that those who disagree with your position are making the wrong choice. Have you proven your God yet?

Jesus died for our sins and I commit them all the time. The reason I am not an athiest is based on the experiences I have had with Faith.

Good for you. Your personal experience really proves nothing, and quite frankly your religion fails to hold up to scrutiny. It appears that the only thing sustaining your religion (for you, at least) is emotion. Pure emotion.

God waits for us all and I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks that this so-called freedom they are experiencing leaves them feeling a little empty and useless. C'mon, You know it does!

Again, I'm a happy atheist. I feel neither empty nor useless. I don't claim that I'm happy because I'm an atheist, though perhaps some people might say they enjoy the freedom from religion. That is not my experience. I can, however, say that my time as a religious person is no different than my time as an atheist, speaking in terms of happiness. Make of that what you will.

I don't believe. And I don't regret it in any way.

[susangail]

Okay impuzzled. I know where you're coming from. You're trying to show all of us our wrongs and save us. I don't doubt you are a happy Christian. If religion makes you happy, good for you. But don't come here and tell us we aren't happy because we don't accept Jesus and don't try to tell us how we feel. I used to be a Christian and now I am an Atheist. I feel more freedom now than I ever did when I believed in God. I don't feel 'empty and useless'. On the contrary, I feel complete and full of life.

[jassi4010709]

this thread makes no sense.

atheists are not worried about any future judgement.....hence why we are atheists.

scare tactics work on the weak (terrorism,global warming,ect ect)  but they dont work on the strong.