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The Bible Summed Up In One Short Sentence

Started by Earthling, October 28, 2011, 07:22:14 PM

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Earthling

Quote from: Ildiko on October 28, 2011, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 07:22:14 PM
In the likely event that I should go missing....

Well, martyred for the cause, on the Internet! Fuck me gently with a chainsaw, where are the emoticons when you need them?

Bullshit.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires, seek discipline and find your liberty. Frank Herbert

Ildiko

Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 09:12:54 PM
Quote from: Ildiko on October 28, 2011, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 07:22:14 PM
In the likely event that I should go missing....

Well, martyred for the cause, on the Internet! Fuck me gently with a chainsaw, where are the emoticons when you need them?

Bullshit.
:)

Asmodean

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Stevil

Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: Stevil on October 28, 2011, 08:00:53 PM
Is this in the same way that Jesus went missing, after he came back from death?
Are you the second coming?
LOL
Don't you think it rather likely that even in my best behavior I will be removed from this forum?
We've had some long time theists, Animated Dirt and iSok to name a couple.
They seem to be able to participate without getting banned.

Ildiko

Quote from: Stevil on October 28, 2011, 09:19:37 PM
Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: Stevil on October 28, 2011, 08:00:53 PM
Is this in the same way that Jesus went missing, after he came back from death?
Are you the second coming?
LOL
Don't you think it rather likely that even in my best behavior I will be removed from this forum?
We've had some long time theists, Animated Dirt and iSok to name a couple.
They seem to be able to participate without getting banned.
They weren't trying to be banned though.

Tank

Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 08:44:49 PM
Quote from: Recusant on October 28, 2011, 07:52:35 PM
Where are you planning on going, that you feel you'll go missing?

I have never challenged an atheist nor theist community without being quickly removed from it. I'm not so arrogant as to think my superior logic (considering myself having the intellectual capacity, of, say Winnie The Pooh and the relevance of plywood) as the problem.   

Quote from: Recusant on October 28, 2011, 07:52:35 PMWhy did YHVH's name need vindication?

Because it was challenged by Satan and Adam. God created Adam to live forever in paradise Earth. To fill and subdue it. He then rested to give man the opportunity to do so. An angel, the most beautiful of angels, was placed in a closed off area of the planet. That angel deceived Eve. The Hebrew word satan means adversary or resistor, the word devil means slanderer, liar.

Eve was deceived but not Adam. Adam listen to Eve and decided for himself that he would get to know, that is, have an intimate knowledge based upon experience , put simply to continue to decide for himself what was good and what was bad. He challenged Jehovah's sovereignty.  Jehovah, having given Adam the earth, in the name of justice, decided that it was only fair to let man give it his best shot without any interference from God. God allowed this, up to a point. The point of destruction. He won't allow a few to spoil it for all.
Please note what I highlighted. So you get kicked off of lot of forums? Why am I not surprised? Earthling if you're getting kicked of off multiple forums maybe you should realise that your behaviour is the common factor here and that as you are responsible for your behaviour you are responsible for being kicked off.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

Quote from: Ildiko on October 28, 2011, 09:23:53 PM
They weren't trying to be banned though.
Discussions with AD made for some fine reading too. Don't think I bit him once, for that very reason...
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Recusant

#22
Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 08:44:49 PMI have never challenged an atheist nor theist community without being quickly removed from it. I'm not so arrogant as to think my superior logic (considering myself having the intellectual capacity, of, say Winnie The Pooh and the relevance of plywood) as the problem.

Oh. You mean get banned. That's not "going missing," that's "getting kicked out." Well, read the Forum Rules and abide by them (I'm pretty sure that you agreed to do that when you joined the forum) and you will not be at risk of banning. We have members here who belong to various faiths, who by the simple expedient of abiding by the forum rules have been welcome contributors to this place for as long as they wished to remain. If you feel that you are unable to abide by the rules here, then I expect that you will be subject to the Rule Enforcement Process of this forum. I've been a member here for a while, and in my experience, members here do not "go missing" as a result of moderator or administrative action without any warning. They do wander away without saying goodbye sometimes though.

Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 08:44:49 PM
Quote from: Recusant on October 28, 2011, 07:52:35 PMWhy did YHVH's name need vindication?

Because it was challenged by Satan and Adam. God created Adam to live forever in paradise Earth. To fill and subdue it. He then rested to give man the opportunity to do so. An angel, the most beautiful of angels, was placed in a closed off area of the planet. That angel deceived Eve. The Hebrew word satan means adversary or resistor, the word devil means slanderer, liar.

Eve was deceived but not Adam. Adam listen to Eve and decided for himself that he would get to know, that is, have an intimate knowledge based upon experience , put simply to continue to decide for himself what was good and what was bad. He challenged Jehovah's sovereignty.  Jehovah, having given Adam the earth, in the name of justice, decided that it was only fair to let man give it his best shot without any interference from God. God allowed this, up to a point. The point of destruction. He won't allow a few to spoil it for all.

In my understanding, YHVH also called himself "Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh" (I Am that I Am). I don't see any challenge to his "am-ness" in this story.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Earthling

Quote from: Ildiko on October 28, 2011, 09:23:53 PMThey weren't trying to be banned though.

Now I'm trying to get banned! I don't believe in the process of martyrdom through the continuation of willful ignorance on the part of the Atheist community, believe it or not. I don't see it that way. I get banned because I want to have good conversations with people who see things differently, but those people, uninterested, can't ignore the presence of something perceived, ridiculously, as a threat or opposition to their world view.

Different side of the same coin.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires, seek discipline and find your liberty. Frank Herbert

Stevil

#24
You are funny, Earthling, very funny.

These good conversations you talk about, do all parties in the conversation have the opinion that these are good conversations?

Earthling

Quote from: Tank on October 28, 2011, 09:27:14 PM
Please note what I highlighted. So you get kicked off of lot of forums? Why am I not surprised? Earthling if you're getting kicked of off multiple forums maybe you should realise that your behaviour is the common factor here and that as you are responsible for your behaviour you are responsible for being kicked off.

Do you honestly believe that? For which travesty of behaviour am I at fault? Which rule did I break? Being called a stupid pig by you, a moderator, or being told to fuck off by Attila?

For preaching which is another word for teaching.

The atheists proclaim the Bible to be bullshit while being willfully ignorant of it all the while citing "evidence" and "rational thinking" on their side and are disgusted with having to manufacture "martyrs" so that they can continue to do so.

Its laughable.   
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires, seek discipline and find your liberty. Frank Herbert

Asmodean

Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 09:47:47 PM
For preaching which is another word for teaching.
...Seriously?

Why do we have two words for the same thing then? Mayhaps it is because preaching is NOT the same as teaching..?
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Stevil

Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 09:47:47 PM
For preaching which is another word for teaching.  

Teaching:
If you combine Hydrochloric Acid HCl with Sodium Hydroxide NaOH you get Sodium Chloride NaCl (commonly known as Salt) and H2O (commonly known as water). Now to prove this lets do this experiment.

Preaching:
God is great, creator of all things, god came to earth and killed himself to save us. Praise the lord.

Tank

Quote from: Earthling on October 28, 2011, 09:47:47 PM
Quote from: Tank on October 28, 2011, 09:27:14 PM
Please note what I highlighted. So you get kicked off of lot of forums? Why am I not surprised? Earthling if you're getting kicked of off multiple forums maybe you should realise that your behaviour is the common factor here and that as you are responsible for your behaviour you are responsible for being kicked off.

Do you honestly believe that? For which travesty of behaviour am I at fault? Which rule did I break? Being called a stupid pig by you, a moderator, or being told to fuck off by Attila?

For preaching which is another word for teaching.

The atheists proclaim the Bible to be bullshit while being willfully ignorant of it all the while citing "evidence" and "rational thinking" on their side and are disgusted with having to manufacture "martyrs" so that they can continue to do so.

Its laughable.   
Preaching is not teaching, and there in lies your problem, if you don't understand the difference between the two you're on a hiding to nothing. And who asked you to come here to preach/teach anyway? You have taken it upon yourself to do it. The thing is you haven't said anything we haven't heard before. You've 'fessed up to being a conspiracy theorist (9/11 truther), said you believe in the Biblical flood and in just one line dismissed evolutionary theory. Just how much credibility do expect to have after doing those things? Well just in case you are under any misapprehension the answer is '0', none, sweet FA.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Earthling

Quote from: Stevil on October 28, 2011, 09:43:28 PM
You are funny, Earthling, very funny.

These good conversations you talk about, do all parties in the conversation have the opinion that these are good conversations?

I seem to recall a couple of them expressing interest upon my arrival which was shaky at best, thanks to an eagerness for what? Good conversation or bloodsport?

Why don't you introduce a topic in which I can address any real challenge to the Bible other than the opinion and hearsay.  We can move on at least until I'm gone and stop wasting time with this drama?

In your thread I challenge anyone here to present evidence that the Bible is historically, scientifically, factually, prophetically, realistically or any other way bullshit. Start the thread. Put your "real money" or your "fake money" where your big mouth is.

Idiot sons a bitches. Stop wasting my fucking time.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires, seek discipline and find your liberty. Frank Herbert