The cycle

[Whitney]

Descriptions are for someone or something, Definitions are for words.

and there is a marked difference between the two how?  You are the one claiming we can't define ourselves...there certainly are definitions for every descriptive word we could use to define what we are as individuals.

Do you see why you sound like a huge troll and why the words can easily be used interchangeably?  Especially when you play stupid games like requiring that strangers on a forum define every last detail of themselves simply to disprove YOUR claim that you can't define your own god...

if you want to play games this isn't the place.

[bicycle]

I'm not playing games, I simply asked why I would need to completely define God in order to argue existence of God, when it is known that words cannot define a person, no matter what...

[xSilverPhinx]

Then why did I have to define God?

Is there concrete proof that god exists? If he's written you something, preferably signed 'God', then please show me.

The word 'god' exists, describe what the word means so people can tell you why they don't see it the same way.

Really? So you can believe in it because you like it? How can you prove karma exists?

I never said I believe in it. If it were a concrete thing it would at least have to be consistent. But this is going on a tangent that really has nothing to do with anything since I'm not arguing for the existence of a concrete 'karma' outside the realm of ideas.

[Whitney]

I simply asked why I would need to completely define God in order to argue existence of God

You were the one who said you can't define your own god....how far you can define it affects only the ability of others to confirm that they believe in it or not.  So, yes, you are playing games

it is known that words cannot define a person, no matter what...

this has yet to be proven.

Again..frankly, I don't care if you can define your god or not nor if you think we can define ourselves.  The only reason I've even bothering is to try to figure out if you are being sincere or not as it affects how I handle you as a moderator.

[bicycle]

So am I being sincere? I don't see how I haven't been sincere...I have followed all of your rules and simply have asked questions, what else do you want? I answered the ones you have given me.

I simply asked why I would need to completely define God in order to argue existence of God

You said because how far you can define it affects only the ability of others to confirm that they believe in it or not. Okay that's fair, so do you believe the truth exists? I cannot fully define the truth so your ability to confirm whether to believe in it or not is futile...You must not believe there is any truth... am I wrong?

You were the one who said you can't define your own god....how far you can define it affects only the ability of others to confirm that they believe in it or not.  So, yes, you are playing games

So I am playing games simply because of what? I answered your question? Tell me what I did to cause you to believe I am "playing games" or messing around on this forum, I am trying the best I can to argue my point against yours, what are you doing?

[Whitney]

I, nor anyone else, brought up your lack of ability to define your god as that was all you...it's your game.  Perhaps you should start over?

[xSilverPhinx]

Bicycle, the reason people are asking you to define 'god' is because it can really be an ambiguous word when used by different people. For instance, I once read a snippet where some guy said that "god was the love that kept the planets going around the sun". Weird definition, but that's how he described it at that time. People who don't believe in gods (and even some that do) would probably think that ridiculous and wonder why he's calling 'gravity' by a loaded word (god).

My point being, if you want to know why people don't agree with you, have have to give us more than just "why don't you believe in god". What is this god? The Abrahamic god or a god of another religion? The deistic god? Pantheistic? Panpsychism? How do you see god?

Do you see where I'm getting at?

[The Magic Pudding]

Has anyone else ever worn a hat after getting a bad hair cut?

[bicycle]

I, nor anyone else, brought up your lack of ability to define your god as that was all you...it's your game.  Perhaps you should start over?

What does that have to do with what I just said? Did you ignore everything? But I'm the one playing games  

If you want to say I can't believe in something I can't define, I might as well not believe in myself or anyone else. The world is just a coincidence and everything happens randomly  

Have it your way LOL

Bicycle, the reason people are asking you to define 'god' is because it can really be an ambiguous word when used by different people. For instance, I once read a snippet where some guy said that "god was the love that kept the planets going around the sun". Weird definition, but that's how he described it at that time. People who don't believe in gods (and even some that do) would probably think that ridiculous and wonder why he's calling 'gravity' by a loaded word (god).

My point being, if you want to know why people don't agree with you, have have to give us more than just "why don't you believe in god". What is this god? The Abrahamic god or a god of another religion? The deistic god? Pantheistic? Panpsychism? How do you see god?

Do you see where I'm getting at?

Yes I see what you are getting at, I actually understand what the man you heard of is saying...If you don't, that's your problem. I could elaborate but I suppose it's just worthless and stupid 

My point being, if you want to know why people don't agree with you, have have to give us more than just "why don't you believe in god".

Why don't you just answer the question? That isn't my response to why people don't agree with me, it's just a question... As for, what this God is, it is IMO the ultimate perspective, the truth, the relativity between all things, the reason you get a chance to live. It is not a person, or a place, or a thing, but rather a person, a place, and a thing. God is the reason for the big bang, the reason for all the madness. The fairness between life and death and beyond.

[ThinkAnarchy]

okay, good point, can you define yourself? please be complete in your definition, otherwise I will not believe you exist...

Ya, you basically proved my point, that God cannot be defined as much as yourself cannot be defined...you still haven't defined yourself and you never will.

I have to respond, but I'm now thinking you are simply a troll. We could all define ourselves in great detail, but I doubt anybody will over the internet. Your logic is making me certain you are either a troll or a simple 13 year old.

The very fact that you even admit to not knowing how to define god is reason enough to not claim to have a belief in it...you can't believe in what you can't define; you have to at least have some idea of what it is and how it differs from other ideas.

God is what the religious say god is. So yes, we can all define ANY ITERATION of god and say it's bogus.

That also includes yourself, you cannot completely define yourself. religion can easily be defined: 1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods. 2. Details of belief as taught or discussed.

Nobody is debating if "religion" exists. At the expense of getting banned, I hope you are simply a troll, rather than simply being that dumb. But the above quoted statement makes me believe the latter.

[Sweetdeath]

Has anyone else ever worn a hat after getting a bad hair cut?

XD me, three days ago. It wasn't a bad cut, but I haven't had short hair in 2years. I'm fine now

[Whitney]

If you want to say I can't believe in something I can't define, I might as well not believe in myself or anyone else. The world is just a coincidence and everything happens randomly  

Have it your way LOL

Your inability to define things is not of my concern...but it doesn't mean others are in the same boat as you.

[The Magic Pudding]

God is the reason for the big bang, the reason for all the madness. The fairness between life and death and beyond.

God as everything is hard to argue with, but I think it's easier to just say "everything".
I haven't seen any evidence that everything has an intent.

XD me, three days ago. It wasn't a bad cut, but I haven't had short hair in 2years. I'm fine now

I'm glad it's fine now.

[ThinkAnarchy]

If you want to say I can't believe in something I can't define, I might as well not believe in myself or anyone else. The world is just a coincidence and everything happens randomly  

Have it your way LOL

Your inability to define things is not of my concern...but it doesn't mean others are in the same boat as you.

I would like to add that we don't need to define ourselves to believe we exist. The simple fact I can see my girlfriend sitting next to me is enough evidence to make me believe she exists. Granted, simply seeing something is not always enough to make me believe. This line of reasoning has the vague semblance to a legitimate philosophical thought process, hence my response. I imagine this was simply a fluke though.

[Sweetdeath]

I'm not sure why i'm still up. Maybe I have hope our wisdom won't keep flying over bicycle's head.


Thanks Magic puddin'
I'm in the mood for tea, earl grey, hot. Make it so



To bicycle, I seriously wish to know your age....because I have a feeling.