God Debate Is Worthless

[Tank]

great, but in a "lack of belief in god" one has to acknowledge it exists. ie My teacher says she is good at teaching, I lack belief in that... I guess your just gonna ignore my previous post, just try to comprehend it please.

So my question is, do atheists LACK belief in God, that exists or does not exist?

EDIT: So atheists believe god does not exist...okay got it

Which sort of atheist are you talking about? Strong or weak?

lol there's different kinds now? Never knew that...go on

Go buy The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, that will explain it.

[bicycle]

Well I would rather not add revenue to some guy trying to profit off of atheists...

[xSilverPhinx]

There's a difference between saying "I don't believe in god" and " I believe that no gods exist".

An example.

I assume you're an aunicornist? How would you explain that?

If someone came to you saying that unicorns exist, would you say that you know for certain that they don't? Or that you see no reason to believe in the until they provide evidence?

Most atheists call themselves agnostic (meaning not knowing) atheists (meaning lack a belief in god). This would be the "weak" atheist. The one who says that no gods exist would be the "strong" atheist, but they're the minority.

I would also call myself an agnostic aunicornist, if that makes sense, meaning that I don't know if unicorns exist but I don't believe in them. You?

[Sweetdeath]

Well I would rather not add revenue to some guy trying to profit off of atheists...

You know, i've been reading your posts since you've joined, and it seems like you are running in here just flapping your gums with no prior knowlegde of athiests...

And he isn't profitting off athiests. It is called a book, and anyone can buy one. I've seen ministers  do worse-- like that idiot who predicted the "rapture" and more idiots gave him their life's posessions. Athiests are free from that way of thinking.

[xSilverPhinx]

I think even a lot of religious people buy the book. And you have a point, it's not like there's some malignant supernatural force that will punish you by not rewarding you if you don't cough up some greens.

Pay up and you'll pass the gates into heaven! Pay not and you'll go to hell. Oh yeah, god is love *add hearts*

[bicycle]

You know, i've been reading your posts since you've joined, and it seems like you are running in here just flapping your gums with no prior knowlegde of athiests...

And he isn't profitting off athiests. It is called a book, and anyone can buy one. I've seen ministers  do worse-- like that idiot who predicted the "rapture" and more idiots gave him their life's posessions. Athiests are free from that way of thinking.

Sorry I really am just trying to learn about it, you're right I don't know anything about Atheists, people are not perfect and yes they use things to their advantage including books... I could become an atheist if I found reason to do so, so far I have not...

[xSilverPhinx]

You could actually listen to what people are saying rather than tell them that because they don't deny the possibility of gods that they are not atheists.

[bicycle]

Okay, but it's a concept that's hard for me to get around, I always thought Atheists claimed that God does not exist.

[Gawen]

You know, i've been reading your posts since you've joined, and it seems like you are running in here just flapping your gums...

You could have stopped there, SD...*grinnin*. Bicycle's wheels sure are spinning, but he's not going anywhere fast, it seems.

[Gawen]

Okay, but it's a concept that's hard for me to get around, I always thought Atheists claimed that God does not exist.

I'm an atheist. I do not claim any god's/s existence. I claim that the evidence for any god/s existence is so low that it render's the concept and question of it moot.

[bicycle]

That's why I'm debating

[Sweetdeath]

<3 <3 @ Gawen.


@bicycle:  I disagree. You are not debating. You are merely talking in circles by respondong to questions with more questions. 

[bicycle]

I was the one to ask the first question so your being hypocritical..

[xSilverPhinx]

Okay. Another example:

Do you believe in Zeus? Thor? Allah? If not then why? We just go one step further and apply that same reasoning to whatever you call your god.

You would be an atheist in regards to other gods and deny truth claims about them.

[ThinkAnarchy]

Okay, but it's a concept that's hard for me to get around, I always thought Atheists claimed that God does not exist.

I'm going to assume you are not a troll, just simply young. You could drag this into a debate about semantics, but I would choose to avoid it.

Atheists simply means you lack a belief in a god or god's. There are different labels atheists apply to themselves, like agnostic atheist, gnostic atheist, hard or soft, strong or weak, etc. Ultimately they all mean the individual does not believe in any gods. We are atheists for different reasons and we all have different views and levels to our atheism.

Atheist simply means, "we don't believe in any god's." Since we don't have a doctrine for atheism, there is no "right or wrong" belief in a lack of gods.