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Started by Twentythree, April 07, 2011, 08:12:18 PM

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Twentythree

I recently heard a lecture presented by David Sloan Wilson regarding meaning systems. In the very beginning of his presentation he makes mention to a Theologian named John F. Haught who wrote a comparison of scientist being like Ants on a goldfish bowl. The speaker, Wilson then goes on to characterize the ants as rational thinkers and thus having a "Meaning System", base on rational facts, The goldfish conversely was looked at as the irrational believers, those whose "meaning systems" are not cemented in facts. I was hoping that someone here could help me find more information and a deeper analysis of the ant/goldfish metaphor. I would specifically like links to talks or passages written or presented by Haught.

Thanks for all your help and insight in advance!!!

Twentythree

Was this too much for the "Laid Back Lounge", if i had waited to post this after my initial 50 would anyone have responded?

Tank

Quote from: "Twentythree"Was this too much for the "Laid Back Lounge", if I had waited to post this after my initial 50 would anyone have responded?
Probably. There have been 16 views one was me, so lets say 12 people have read it. I'm not a great follower of philosophy I tend to get fed up with the 'lint examination' process  :D I suggest we wait till you get to your 50 and then ask Whitney to move the thread into philosophy.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Twentythree

What is "lint examination"?

Tank

Quote from: "Twentythree"What is "lint examination"?
Another term for Navel Gazing or philosophy, sorry I'm a bit of a philistine when it comes to philosophy.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

OldGit

Quote from: "Tank"I'm a bit of a philistine when it comes to philosophy.

Ah, but can you say that after five pints?

Tank

Quote from: "OldGit"
Quote from: "Tank"I'm a bit of a philistine when it comes to philosophy.

Ah, but can you say that after five pints?
I would say I could as those around me ran for cover!  lol
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.