Is Islam a Religion of Peace?

[Thinkbigger]

Humans are born amoral and possess the potential for all manner nasty behavior. Violence is a human trait. The family and the general culture one is raised in largely determines their adult behaviors. The killing of non-believers is encouraged in numerous passages in the Quran. This belief system offers enticements to martyrs who kill the infidels. Muslims are commanded by Allah to kill the enemies of God. I've often wondered why Allah just doesn't up and do it himself. I mean really.. if he hates us so much then why doesn't he just blink us out of existence? Oh that's right.. he's a figment of the imagination.. so I guess we're safe. Or are we? Hmm...

Now, if you just take this sort of thinking and apply it to the Bible...

Exactly Mr. Sandwich. However, there is a minor difference in the two disciplines. The Bible urges the faithful to evangelize to their neighbors, whereas, the Quran commands the faithful to exterminate their neighbors should they resist conversion. A small but important distinction. One harvests souls with rhetoric and dogma whereas the other employs the blade. The call to violence in Islam is often a point of pride and serves as a means of preserving family honor. Islam is more dangerous for Muslims than for non-Muslims. Here's a Fun Fact: Far more Muslims have been killed by other Muslims than by any other group/s. Additionally, they continue to embrace slavery in Africa. It significant to note that they actually legally own their women much in the same manner as we own our lawnmowers. Clearly this group embraces the least evolved spirit based belief system on the planet. To me, Islam appears to have been developed primarily for the purpose of controlling women and their sexual activity as a further means of guaranteeing fidelity, preserving bloodlines, and minimizing the risk of venereal disease. Of course it is also serves as a means, in many places of great poverty and sparse resource, of acquiring personal power over others. Useful I imagine, under those circumstances.

P.S. I see that you are still laboring under the assumption that I  am one of the faithful Mr. Sandwich. I'm an Atheist alright.. just not a ideologue.

[LegendarySandwich]

Exactly Mr. Sandwich. However, there is a minor difference in the two disciplines. The Bible urges the faithful to evangelize to their neighbors, whereas, the Quran commands the faithful to exterminate their neighbors should they resist conversion. A small but important distinction. One harvests souls with rhetoric and dogma whereas the other employs the blade. The call to violence in Islam is often a point of pride and serves as a means of preserving family honor. Islam is more dangerous for Muslims than for non-Muslims. Here's a Fun Fact: Far more Muslims have been killed by other Muslims than by any other group/s. Additionally, they continue to embrace slavery in Africa. It significant to note that they actually legally own their women much in the same manner as we own our lawnmowers. Clearly this group embraces the least evolved spirit based belief system on the planet. To me, Islam appears to have been developed primarily for the purpose of controlling women and their sexual activity as a further means of guaranteeing fidelity, preserving bloodlines, and minimizing the risk of venereal disease. Of course it is also serves as a means, in many places of great poverty and sparse resource, of acquiring personal power over others. Useful I imagine, under those circumstances.

Eh. Sounds reasonable.

P.S. I see that you are still laboring under the assumption that I  am one of the faithful Mr. Sandwich. I'm an Atheist alright.. just not a ideologue.

I'm still not entirely convinced you aren't a troll, but we'll see.

[JoeBobSmith]

 

[JoeBobSmith]

[Thinkbigger]

Exactly Mr. Sandwich. However, there is a minor difference in the two disciplines. The Bible urges the faithful to evangelize to their neighbors, whereas, the Quran commands the faithful to exterminate their neighbors should they resist conversion. A small but important distinction. One harvests souls with rhetoric and dogma whereas the other employs the blade. The call to violence in Islam is often a point of pride and serves as a means of preserving family honor. Islam is more dangerous for Muslims than for non-Muslims. Here's a Fun Fact: Far more Muslims have been killed by other Muslims than by any other group/s. Additionally, they continue to embrace slavery in Africa. It significant to note that they actually legally own their women much in the same manner as we own our lawnmowers. Clearly this group embraces the least evolved spirit based belief system on the planet. To me, Islam appears to have been developed primarily for the purpose of controlling women and their sexual activity as a further means of guaranteeing fidelity, preserving bloodlines, and minimizing the risk of venereal disease. Of course it is also serves as a means, in many places of great poverty and sparse resource, of acquiring personal power over others. Useful I imagine, under those circumstances.

Eh. Sounds reasonable.

P.S. I see that you are still laboring under the assumption that I  am one of the faithful Mr. Sandwich. I'm an Atheist alright.. just not a ideologue.

I'm still not entirely convinced you aren't a troll, but we'll see.

I don't blame you for being suspicious. There's a whole lot of trolls and posers out there. Keep the faith. I'm true blue.

[Thumpalumpacus]

but could an otherwise good person be brainwashed by muslims to blow himself up?

The madrasas in Pakistan seem to be doing good business.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Exactly Mr. Sandwich. However, there is a minor difference in the two disciplines. The Bible urges the faithful to evangelize to their neighbors, whereas, the Quran commands the faithful to exterminate their neighbors should they resist conversion. A small but important distinction. One harvests souls with rhetoric and dogma whereas the other employs the blade. The call to violence in Islam is often a point of pride and serves as a means of preserving family honor. Islam is more dangerous for Muslims than for non-Muslims. Here's a Fun Fact: Far more Muslims have been killed by other Muslims than by any other group/s. Additionally, they continue to embrace slavery in Africa. It significant to note that they actually legally own their women much in the same manner as we own our lawnmowers. Clearly this group embraces the least evolved spirit based belief system on the planet. To me, Islam appears to have been developed primarily for the purpose of controlling women and their sexual activity as a further means of guaranteeing fidelity, preserving bloodlines, and minimizing the risk of venereal disease. Of course it is also serves as a means, in many places of great poverty and sparse resource, of acquiring personal power over others. Useful I imagine, under those circumstances.

P.S. I see that you are still laboring under the assumption that I  am one of the faithful Mr. Sandwich. I'm an Atheist alright.. just not a ideologue.

Have you ever lived in an Islamic country?

[JoeBobSmith]

 

[JoeBobSmith]

 

[iSok]

two questions.

I know the answer of question #1.
I would like to know the answer of question #2.


#1 - The people in Afghanistan that fight against NATO forces, are they doing that in the name of Islam?


#2 - Why did the U.S.A. invade Iraq?

- Al Qaeda (Saddam hated Al Qaeda, after the invasion, Al Qaeda came to Iraq and started operating).
- WOMD (No WOMD found so far)
- To help the people (Yes Saddam killed the koerds (Turkey is still killing them), but the war didn't really help the people...)

Only reasonable answer I know off is: Oil.

[Whitney]

iSok...if you had actually listened to the debate you'd know why the audience voted against the claim that islam is a religion of peace.  Peaceful religions don't have any passages which call for violence.

[iSok]

iSok...if you had actually listened to the debate you'd know why the audience voted against the claim that islam is a religion of peace.  Peaceful religions don't have any passages which call for violence.

No but many people asked me off this.
I did indeed not read the article.
We're only allowed to defend, the passages that are in the Qur'an also are from a context in the Qur'an.
Not just the context, but also the time in which the relevation came.

But when I saw this topic, I thought of Stevil, Tank and Asmodean, they asked me multiple times about this.
So I bumbed in, can anyone answer?

[LegendarySandwich]

It doesn't matter what someone's holy book says -- what the "correct" interpretation is, or what "context" you may need to view it in. What matters is what its followers do.

Islam is not a religion of peace. Yes, not all Muslims are primitive, barbaric, misogynistic, violent people -- but enough are for the religion not to be peaceful.

[iSok]

It doesn't matter what someone's holy book says -- what the "correct" interpretation is, or what "context" you may need to view it in. What matters is what its followers do.

Islam is not a religion of peace. Yes, not all Muslims are primitive, barbaric, misogynistic, violent people -- but enough are for the religion not to be peaceful.

Answer my questions above Ls.

If 'Muslims' were not 'Muslims' but spaghetti-eaters, you would blame on spaghetti...by your logic...

[LegendarySandwich]

Answer my questions above Ls.

If 'Muslims' were not 'Muslims' but spaghetti-eaters, you would blame on spaghetti...by your logic...

If eating spaghetti is a religion/ideology, which it is actually, and a lot of its followers were like a lot of the more violent Muslims, then I certainly wouldn't call the religion of eating spaghetti peaceful.