WBC: The Only "True" Christians Left?

[LegendarySandwich]

Especially since most and a lot are mutually exclusive.

...How?

I think MOST people would agree (haha) that most implys more than 50%.  A lot has no implication of a certain percentage other than simply A percentage.  That percentage could be as little as 1% and as much or even up to 99%.  It couldn't be zero (that would be NONE), nor could it be 100% (that would be ALL). So then most is limited at least to above 50%.  Of course I'm speakin of two pieces.  When you break it up to more than 2, most isn't necessarily more than 50%.

"Most" means the majority, which does imply at least %50, yes. "A lot" means a large percentage, which is relative. I don't see how they're mutually exclusive. All you've shown is that words can mean different things to different people in different circumstances.

[AnimatedDirt]

"Most" means the majority, which does imply at least %50, yes. "A lot" means a large percentage, which is relative. I don't see how they're mutually exclusive. All you've shown is that words can mean different things to different people in different circumstances.

Yes, so then since we agree, for the most part....heh, please re-read your point on the bad things (originally) and insert more than 50% to the meaning of most.  Then re-read again by using a lot where the amount in its meaning is less than 50% at worst and vague at best.

[LegendarySandwich]

"Most" means the majority, which does imply at least %50, yes. "A lot" means a large percentage, which is relative. I don't see how they're mutually exclusive. All you've shown is that words can mean different things to different people in different circumstances.

Yes, so then since we agree, for the most part....heh, please re-read your point on the bad things (originally) and insert more than 50% to the meaning of most.  Then re-read again by using a lot where the amount in its meaning is less than 50% at worst and vague at best.

I want it to be intentionally vague.

[Sophus]

"Most" means the majority, which does imply at least %50, yes. "A lot" means a large percentage, which is relative. I don't see how they're mutually exclusive. All you've shown is that words can mean different things to different people in different circumstances.

Yes, so then since we agree, for the most part....heh, please re-read your point on the bad things (originally) and insert more than 50% to the meaning of most.  Then re-read again by using a lot where the amount in its meaning is less than 50% at worst and vague at best.

I want it to be intentionally vague.

[Achronos]

http://godhatesfags.com/reports/20060331_god-loves-everyone-lie.pdf

If there's one thing that most atheists and the Westboro Baptist Church can agree upon, it's that the God of the Bible is a cruel, sadistic, hateful, wrathful being who hates most of his creation. The only difference is, they actually believe in him   .

Sadisitc, cruel, wrathful and hateful? I didn't know these characteristics were of Christ.

WBC isn't following a commandment from Christ, love your enemies and pray for them...

[LegendarySandwich]

http://godhatesfags.com/reports/20060331_god-loves-everyone-lie.pdf

If there's one thing that most atheists and the Westboro Baptist Church can agree upon, it's that the God of the Bible is a cruel, sadistic, hateful, wrathful being who hates most of his creation. The only difference is, they actually believe in him   .

Sadisitc, cruel, wrathful and hateful? I didn't know these characteristics were of Christ.

WBC isn't following a commandment from Christ, love your enemies and pray for them...

I'm not talking about Jesus, I'm talking about God (mostly the one of the Old Testament, although I don't think he's honestly that much better in the New Testament).

EDIT: By the way, welcome back, Achronos. Did you enjoy your vacation?

[LegendarySandwich]

What?

[Achronos]

I'm not talking about Jesus, I'm talking about God (mostly the one of the Old Testament, although I don't think he's honestly that much better in the New Testament).

Well for Christians the God of the OT is Christ, because Christ is eternally begotten of the Father and as Christ Himself said "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father". So when we read the OT we see it illumined by Christ, it's all Christological for us.

EDIT: By the way, welcome back, Achronos. Did you enjoy your vacation?

Left a bitter taste *shurgs*

[Recusant]

Well for Christians the God of the OT is Christ, because Christ is eternally begotten of the Father and as Christ Himself said "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father". So when we read the OT we see it illumined by Christ, it's all Christological for us.

Wouldn't you agree though that the character of Jesus as portrayed in the New Testament is markedly different that of YHVH as portrayed in the Old?  (Mystical beliefs and the Jesus quote aside.)  Compare just about any of the sayings of Jesus with the vicious celestial goon portrayed in Isaiah 13.

YHVH: "Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes"

Jesus: "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

[The Magic Pudding]

Compare just about any of the sayings of Jesus with the vicious celestial goon portrayed in Isaiah 13.

YHVH: "Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes"

Jesus: "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

It seems a "true" Christian requires, or is granted a great deal of flexibility.