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Started by Voter, January 18, 2011, 05:04:51 PM

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The Magic Pudding

Why hasn't this thread got a poll?
Anyway no I haven't killed people.
People is plural right?

No I haven't killed a singular person either.
Some fish, and a few mice, but they smell really bad.

karadan

Quote from: "Velma"He couldn't have been a 'True Atheist' then.   :)
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

Asmodean

Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"Some fish, and a few mice, but they smell really bad.
:(
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: "Asmodean"
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"Some fish, and a few mice, but they smell really bad.
:(

Remove box from shed containing mice to middle of yard.
Curse dog for scaring off kookaburras who could have been of help.
Overturn box grab shovel and whack smelly uninvited mice.
I don't think I can adequately describe the thrill of the chase, under the trampoline and the diving squash.

Tank

Quote from: "McQ"Voter has received a one week ban for continued trolling, after his warning.

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Sophus

Quote from: "Voter"
Quote from: "Whitney"Let me restate this...

Voter, if you do not tell us your point (and have one that isn't trollish) by tomorrow I'm going to give you a warning for trolling.  You've been logged in and posting since all of our replies to this thread so there really is no excuse for ignoring the topic.

Or, you could apologize for making such a stupid post and that would be fine too.
The article linked regards his nihilism. While atheism and nihilism are not synonymous, there can certainly be a connection.
http://atheism.about.com/od/nihilismnih ... theism.htm
And, in all fairness, some atheists do abandon those positions. Most atheists (in the West, at least) tend to be materialists of one sort or another, not believing in any non-material or supernatural realm. Atheists are also generally ethical relativists, adopting one form or another of ethical nihilism. And, finally, there are plenty of atheistic existentialists who believe that human life is objectively meaningless.
Oh, ok. So don't worry everyone. He's only calling me a mass murderer. lol
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Asmodean

Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"Remove box from shed containing mice to middle of yard.
Curse dog for scaring off kookaburras who could have been of help.
Overturn box grab shovel and whack smelly uninvited mice.
I don't think I can adequately describe the thrill of the chase, under the trampoline and the diving squash.
My rats and I ought to call a blood feud on you.  :rant: .
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

iSok

#22
I don't want hurt anyone's feelings.
But I looked up the RichardDawkin's forum.

I saw a thread about an event in Morocco where a Mosque collapsed and 36 people lost their lives. (I don't know why it had to do with religion)
For some reason this event was posted on the forum, since it was a Mosque and not a Research center on evolution.
To use this tragedy once again and to blame religion for that.


Couple of them even commented 'well if it happens again, you'll have 72 virings in heaven lol!'

I guess Voter did the same to show this... (He gets banned for it... ;) ) . Mutual understanding is important.
People post here news articles about mothers killing their children because of religion.
Thousands of tragedy's like these happen all over the world, no direct relation with religion.

And for some reason people post certain news here to confirm their beliefs, everyone is like:


'SEE!! SEE!! RELIGION IS BAADDDDDD!!!! BADDD PEOPLE, BAAADD PEOPLE!!!'

This is what I constantly hear from Atheists, that we are fools, stupid, dumb and what not...every problem on the world
is because of religion. Voter  opened on one point..and well he didn't get a chance to get a second. A bann he didn't deserve.


Something I didn't expect from people who claim that they are open-minded.
Qur'an [49:13] - "O Mankind, We created you all from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another. Verily the noblest of you in the sight of God is the most God-fearing of you. Surely God is All-Knowing, All-Aware."

Velma

Jared Loughner is mentally ill and belief in government conspiracies was part of that illness.  According to his mother, he thinks he's in another mental hospital - that's how out of touch with reality he is.
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "iSok"I saw a thread about an event in Morocco where a Mosque collapsed and 36 people lost their lives. (I don't know why it had to do with religion)
For some reason this event was posted on the forum, since it was a Mosque and not a Research center on evolution.
To use this tragedy once again and to blame religion for that.
So, because it was a slightly religious event in nature, and it was posted on an atheist forum, they must have thought that religion had to do with it?


QuoteCouple of them even commented 'well if it happens again, you'll have 72 virings in heaven lol!'

I guess Voter did the same to show this... (He gets banned for it... ;) ) . Mutual understanding is important.
People post here news articles about mothers killing their children because of religion.
Thousands of tragedy's like these happen all over the world, no direct relation with religion.

And for some reason people post certain news here to confirm their beliefs, everyone is like:


'SEE!! SEE!! RELIGION IS BAADDDDDD!!!! BADDD PEOPLE, BAAADD PEOPLE!!!'


Something I didn't expect from people who claim that they are open-minded.
Most "bad things" that people do have no direct relation to religion, even if it has to do with religion. But religions are ideologies, and that mean they can influence people to do "bad things".

For example, a lot of what is contributing to the hate of gays in America is religion. Yes, gay bigotry would exist without religion (probably), but there's no denying that religion is a significant factor.

iSok

What happened, has happened.
Let it rest.
Qur'an [49:13] - "O Mankind, We created you all from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another. Verily the noblest of you in the sight of God is the most God-fearing of you. Surely God is All-Knowing, All-Aware."

Recusant

Quote from: "iSok"I don't want hurt anyone's feelings.
But I looked up the RichardDawkin's forum.

I saw a thread about an event in Morocco where a Mosque collapsed and 36 people lost their lives. (I don't know why it had to do with religion)
For some reason this event was posted on the forum, since it was a Mosque and not a Research center on evolution.
To use this tragedy once again and to blame religion for that.
I know you're busy, iSok, but would you mind posting a link to this thread when you have a chance?  It's all very well to assert that the members of a forum were blaming religion for the tragic collapse of a mosque, but it's much better to provide the evidence which convinced you that is what they were doing.

Quote from: "iSok"I guess Voter did the same to show this... (He gets banned for it... ;) ) . Mutual understanding is important.
People post here news articles about mothers killing their children because of religion.
Thousands of tragedy's like these happen all over the world, no direct relation with religion.
Voter was asked repeatedly to clarify what he/she meant by posting the link.  When a reply finally came, it really didn't do that, but was again left rather vague.  The thread title is about the best clue, and even that says very little, but the implication seems to be that, "This is what atheism does; it makes people murderers!"  There is absolutely no evidence that Loughner was motivated by atheism to kill people.  If you think there is, then please post it.  On the other hand there is abundant evidence that religion can serve as a motivation for people to kill other people.  You say that there is "no direct relation with religion," but the evidence doesn't back up that position.  I'm surprised that an intelligent person such as yourself could really believe that there's no direct relation between religion and religiously motivated killings.
 
Quote from: "iSok"This is what I constantly hear from Atheists, that we are fools, stupid, dumb and what not...every problem on the world is because of religion. Voter  opened on one point..and well he didn't get a chance to get a second. A bann he didn't deserve.


Something I didn't expect from people who claim that they are open-minded.
Voter did get a chance to clear up the meaning of the OP, and basically ignored that chance.  I think that the one week ban was well deserved.  What have you read in this thread that makes you think that Voter was doing anything more than trolling?  Did he or she make an attempt to engage in a discussion, or simply start a thread with an accusatory title, then add another vaguely accusatory post when asked to clarify?  Your defense of Voter is feeble, and your assertion that atheists blame all the problems in the world on religion is ridiculous.  Finally, your remark about a lack of open-mindedness isn't justified by anything that has occurred in this thread.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


iSok

Qur'an [49:13] - "O Mankind, We created you all from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another. Verily the noblest of you in the sight of God is the most God-fearing of you. Surely God is All-Knowing, All-Aware."

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "iSok"Here's the link Recusant.

http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtop ... 3&t=110075
No one in that thread ever says or even implies that their religion was the reason that the building collapsed.


QuoteLike I said, let it rest.
...? Did you expect to make a post and then us not respond to it?

Davin

Quote from: "iSok"[spoiler:8ldz18ko]I don't want hurt anyone's feelings.
But I looked up the RichardDawkin's forum.

I saw a thread about an event in Morocco where a Mosque collapsed and 36 people lost their lives. (I don't know why it had to do with religion)
For some reason this event was posted on the forum, since it was a Mosque and not a Research center on evolution.
To use this tragedy once again and to blame religion for that.


Couple of them even commented 'well if it happens again, you'll have 72 virings in heaven lol!'

I guess Voter did the same to show this... (He gets banned for it... ;) ) . Mutual understanding is important.
People post here news articles about mothers killing their children because of religion.
Thousands of tragedy's like these happen all over the world, no direct relation with religion.

And for some reason people post certain news here to confirm their beliefs, everyone is like:


'SEE!! SEE!! RELIGION IS BAADDDDDD!!!! BADDD PEOPLE, BAAADD PEOPLE!!!'

This is what I constantly hear from Atheists, that we are fools, stupid, dumb and what not...every problem on the world
is because of religion. Voter  opened on one point..and well he didn't get a chance to get a second. A bann he didn't deserve.


Something I didn't expect from people who claim that they are open-minded.[/spoiler:8ldz18ko]
I know you already said let it rest, but I think you should also note that that forum was run by different people than this forum. The kind of things that atheists were allowed to do there would not be allowed here. I've only been on this forum for a short while, but I have seen atheists warned and even banned for preaching, trolling and other things on this forum.

To say that something was allowed on a different forum but a person got banned on this forum is like lumping all "atheist" forums together. If this forum had control over that other forum then it would be fair to say that someone here got banned for the same thing that was allowed there, however because they don't, then it's just a bad comparison.
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.