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Necrophilia to be legalised in Egypt?

Started by OldGit, May 03, 2012, 07:22:58 PM

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OldGit

Egypt's National Council for Women (NCW) has appealed to the Islamist-dominated parliament not to approve two controversial laws on the minimum age of marriage and allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death, according to a report in an Egyptian newspaper.

http://english.alarabiya.net/mob/en/210198.html

Tank

I love the way the law allows the wife to have sex with her dead husband. HOW?
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OldGit

Tricky, but it's amazing what you can do with a lolly-stick and some masking tape.

DeterminedJuliet

Is this a thing? Why is this a thing?
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

Ali


Siz

Quote from: Tank on May 03, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
I love the way the law allows the wife to have sex with her dead husband. HOW?
Rigor mortis. Supporters of this law will come up against stiff opposition, I dare say.

When one sleeps on the floor one need not worry about falling out of bed - Anton LaVey

The universe is a cold, uncaring void. The key to happiness isn't a search for meaning, it's to just keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense, and eventually you'll be dead!

Tank

Quote from: Scissorlegs on May 03, 2012, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 03, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
I love the way the law allows the wife to have sex with her dead husband. HOW?
Rigor mortis. Supporters of this law will come up against stiff opposition, I dare say.
:D
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

ThinkAnarchy

I'm certain I wouldn't want to have sex with my dead wife, even if the body was still warm, but I don't see it as that big of a deal. The dead can't say no, and it deals with spouses... It's certainly strange, but I don't think it's that big a deal. Granted, I didn't read the article very closely, so I may have missed something important that would change my opinion.

Granted the law isn't exactly fair. The woman would have to prop up her husbands member somehow. I never understood societies outrage to necrophilia. It's disgusting, but it's also victimless.
"He that displays too often his wife and his wallet is in danger of having both of them borrowed." -Ben Franklin

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -credited to Franklin, but not sure.

Ali

I think what disturbs me about it is that apparently it's a common enough occurance that they need a law to protect a man's right to do it?  Like, I would think that true necrophilia (an actual sexual attraction to the dead) would probably be rare enough to not need such a law.  But, the idea that many men would want to have sex with their wife's corpse (again, enough that there needs to be a law about it) makes me think that the wife, living or dead, is just a thing to masturbate in to.  That's gross and degrading.

En_Route

Quote from: OldGit on May 03, 2012, 07:22:58 PM
Egypt's National Council for Women (NCW) has appealed to the Islamist-dominated parliament not to approve two controversial laws on the minimum age of marriage and allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death, according to a report in an Egyptian newspaper.

http://english.alarabiya.net/mob/en/210198.html

Bugger me.
Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them (Orwell).

Recusant

#10
Funny stuff, but it was shown to be a hoax already. As that article mentions, Al-Arabiya has already backed away from its earlier story.

There is a tiny grain of truth in the story, because apparently, there is a Moroccan cleric on the lunatic fringe (Zamzami Abdul Bari, mentioned in the Al-Arabiya story linked above) who did say a while back that a man "remains married to his wife for six hours after her death" with all that implied.

An earlier Christian Science Monitor piece on this--  "Egypt 'necrophilia law'? Hooey, utter hooey."
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— H. L. Mencken


Ali

Quote from: Recusant on May 03, 2012, 09:16:10 PM
Funny stuff, but it was shown to be a hoax already. As that article mentions, Al-Arabiya has already backed away from its earlier story.

There is a tiny grain of truth in the story, because apparently, there is a Moroccan cleric on the lunatic fringe (Zamzami Abdul Bari, mentioned in the Al-Arabiya story linked above) who did say a while back that a man "remains married to his wife for six hours after her death" with all that implied.

An earlier Christian Monitor piece on this--  "Egypt 'necrophilia law'? Hooey, utter hooey."

Glad to hear it!  That was disturbing!

Amicale

Quote from: Recusant on May 03, 2012, 09:16:10 PM
Funny stuff, but it was shown to be a hoax already. As that article mentions, Al-Arabiya has already backed away from its earlier story.

Thank you! Was about to post it was a hoax. Hadn't even heard the story until I heard the fun folks over on 'Ask an Atheist' podcast mentioning the story, and that it was a hoax. Apparently the story was originally an opinion paper/position piece that, through the miracles of misunderstanding/bad translation/whatever else got listed as a news story.


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DeterminedJuliet

"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

ThinkAnarchy

Quote from: Ali on May 03, 2012, 08:49:00 PM
I think what disturbs me about it is that apparently it's a common enough occurance that they need a law to protect a man's right to do it?  Like, I would think that true necrophilia (an actual sexual attraction to the dead) would probably be rare enough to not need such a law.  But, the idea that many men would want to have sex with their wife's corpse (again, enough that there needs to be a law about it) makes me think that the wife, living or dead, is just a thing to masturbate in to.  That's gross and degrading.

I think a lot of them are coroners. It is good it is a hoax though. Apparently it's limited to those who work with the dead over there too.
"He that displays too often his wife and his wallet is in danger of having both of them borrowed." -Ben Franklin

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -credited to Franklin, but not sure.