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Beware of Artists

Started by musicality, April 20, 2012, 08:02:59 AM

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musicality

So I posted this on my Facebook. And unfortunately..I got some negative comments on it. I guess I can understand why...but I just liked the strength of the message. I guess people were taking this a little too literally or something.

I had a friend give me a sarcastic comment saying how they airdrop poets and dancers when they need some help in the military...deleted the comment so i don't have an exact quote.

I had another friend say: "Don't know if. Completely agree with the way this is written! Maybe I'm reading it as a negative aspect! I get it.....but don't really agree with the output of the message! My opinion!"

The last comment was actually interesting saying "This post makes me smile because we were discussing Wordsworth in class the other night and his preface to his anthology made the claim that poets were some kind of superheroes who alone could guard against the rising tide of tyranny, oppression and immorality. I agree artists are dangerous but we must be wary of being aware of how dangerous we are lest we fall prey to the high-minded, neglectful and prideful arrogance that would force the world to dismiss us and our art. In other words we are most dangerous when we remain unaware of our impact, catharsis can be the enemy of creativity."

So what do you guys think? Hmm...Just wanted to share my random thought of the day.

"Music is prophecy. Its styles are ahead of the rest of society because
it explores, much faster than material reality can, the entire range of
possibilities."

Tank

Sneaky buggers artists. Using their brains creatively!! I never did trust them  :D
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

musicality

Quote from: Tank on April 20, 2012, 08:20:40 AM
Sneaky buggers artists. Using their brains creatively!! I never did trust them  :D

They really are quite annoying aren't they??  ;D
"Music is prophecy. Its styles are ahead of the rest of society because
it explores, much faster than material reality can, the entire range of
possibilities."

Tank

Quote from: musicality on April 20, 2012, 08:34:11 AM
Quote from: Tank on April 20, 2012, 08:20:40 AM
Sneaky buggers artists. Using their brains creatively!! I never did trust them  :D

They really are quite annoying aren't they??  ;D
Oh yes! It's the poet's that I can't stand. Making you think about how life really works. Casting a light where one shouldn't. Opening people's eyes to reality. Should be banned in my opinion.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Crow

I think any successful political/religious/social movement would agree, unless you get the artists and designers on your side your not going to get the propaganda, uniforms, films, literature, images and overall aesthetic polish that will give the leaders of such groups the ability to grab the attention of the average person.
Retired member.

DeterminedJuliet

It's a bit tongue-in-cheek, maybe the people on your facebook don't quite get that?
My Facebook is mostly filled with writers, belly dancers, academics, photographers, singers, etc. I think I'd get a pretty warm reception if I posted it. A few years ago Harper went on a huge spree of cutting funding to the Arts in Canada and almost everyone I know changed their profile picture to this:

"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

En_Route

Art serves its own ends and constitutes its own justification. Paradoxically, claims for its ability to ennoble us or fast-track us to some profounder awareness of the human condition are inherently instrumentalist. Ditto any hierophantic proposition that seeks to confer a sacred status on artists themselves.
As Wilde said, Art is useless. That may not be always literally true,  but any utility a work of art may possess over and above the aesthetic satisfaction it offers is incidental.
Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them (Orwell).

ibm

Quote from: musicality on April 20, 2012, 08:02:59 AM
... So what do you guys think? Hmm...Just wanted to share my random thought of the day.



I completely agree with your "Beware of Artists" poster. Being retired for the past five years, my fulltime hobby consists of studying song-writers (poets). It is a beautiful pastime. During that period I remember saying to myself: "Beware of Artists" many a times. Today I can safely say to myself that Pink Floyd better reflects my thoughts. There are others that I do like but do not my values.

♪ Well the world of Art is a funny funny place ♪
♪ Where everyone wears a funny funny face ♪
♪ All the streets are paved with gold ♪
♪ And no one ever grows old ♪

Sandra Craft

OMA, I'm related to artists -- I'm at ground zero for their depraved influence!
Sandy

  

"Life is short, and it is up to you to make it sweet."  Sarah Louise Delany

ibm

Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on April 20, 2012, 02:03:51 PM
It's a bit tongue-in-cheek, maybe the people on your facebook don't quite get that?
My Facebook is mostly filled with writers, belly dancers, academics, photographers, singers, etc. I think I'd get a pretty warm reception if I posted it. A few years ago Harper went on a huge spree of cutting funding to the Arts in Canada and almost everyone I know changed their profile picture to this:


Please, please! A bit of respect for the Queen of England. Stephen Harper has a taste for her ever since his government took out many Canadian paintings in public buildings and replaced them with Liz.

Whitney

I think only two kinds of people could find that poster offensive or wrong...those who are shallow thinkers and those who take everything literally (like if you have a lot of autism spectrum friends). 

I think it is pretty obvious that it is a poster about artists being dangerous to the establishment, suppression of freedom etc....after all, ideas/imagination can be quite dangerous to those who want to control people.  Look at what the freedom of the internet has done in such a short time.