The Mac thread

[keithpenrod]

nicer, smoother, easier to use, stabler, etc

I'd like to put a personal preference sticker on that. (Atually, I would call it bullshit, but much of it is in the eye of the beholder, so... Yeah. It can go for now)

If you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate

What's wrong with VisualStudio?

Having used mac and windows systems, I'm going to stick with the smoother and stabler as objective.  The nicer and easier to use may be personal preference (or perhaps just which one you're accustomed to). 

I have never used VisualStudio, that I can remember, so I wouldn't be able to comment on that.  But I have used TextMate and it's very nice.

[Asmodean]

Well, in my deeply subjective opinion, VisualStudio is the best IDE I've worked with.

[keithpenrod]

Well, in my deeply subjective opinion, VisualStudio is the best IDE I've worked with.

That's great.  But the OP asked what Mac software people recommended, so I was giving my recommendation.  I was under the impression that VisualStudio was strictly Windows-based.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  At any rate, I wasn't attempting to give a comparison of TextMate with any other similar software. 

[ThinkAnarchy]

Well, in my deeply subjective opinion, VisualStudio is the best IDE I've worked with.

That's great.  But the OP asked what Mac software people recommended, so I was giving my recommendation.  I was under the impression that VisualStudio was strictly Windows-based.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  At any rate, I wasn't attempting to give a comparison of TextMate with any other similar software. 

I'm 99% certain you are correct about that being a windows only program. You could run Parallels to run it, but there is no point when their are great options out their for Apples OS.

I have only had TextMate for two days now, but am extremely happy with it so far. Granted I'm still teaching myself XHTML/CSS, so I'm certainly not an expert. The only ones I have tried are BBEdit, Text Wrangler, TextMate, and one other that I can't remember.


Also, another great program is Caffeine, which will keep you're computer from going to sleep, which is very handy while watching videos.

[Crow]

I'm 99% certain you are correct about that being a windows only program. You could run Parallels to run it, but there is no point when their are great options out their for Apples OS.

Yup or you can run could always use Boot Camp which comes with every mac.

[ThinkAnarchy]

Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around. You can follow the steps in the link below to check in terminal if your system has been infected. Thankfully mine is clean, but it also provides the steps for getting rid of it.

http://gizmodo.com/5899352/mac-flashback-trojan-find-out-if-youre-one-of-the-600000-infected

[keithpenrod]

Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around. You can follow the steps in the link below to check in terminal if your system has been infected. Thankfully mine is clean, but it also provides the steps for getting rid of it.

http://gizmodo.com/5899352/mac-flashback-trojan-find-out-if-youre-one-of-the-600000-infected

I'm pretty sure this kind of thing would get a better reaction on a fundamentalist Christian forum, where the bulk of the user base is gullible.

[Asmodean]

Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around.

More than one, really. Also, there are a couple of worms and a bunch of spy/adware.

[ThinkAnarchy]

Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around.

More than one, really. Also, there are a couple of worms and a bunch of spy/adware.

Still not nearly as much of Microsoft.

[Asmodean]

Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around.

More than one, really. Also, there are a couple of worms and a bunch of spy/adware.

Still not nearly as much of Microsoft.

Of course. Most virus coders code for the masses and Microsoft's masses are the most massive.

[keithpenrod]

Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around.

More than one, really. Also, there are a couple of worms and a bunch of spy/adware.

Still not nearly as much of Microsoft.

Of course. Most virus coders code for the masses and Microsoft's masses are the most massive.

I think it's funny that Windows users commonly say that--"there aren't even enough Mac users to make it worth the hackers' time to write viruses." as if that's a bad thing. To me, it's just one more reason to buy a Mac. I mean, is "Well, we have more viruses for our OS" really a selling point?  It makes me smile.

[The Magic Pudding]

How do the windows users who have malware problems actually find themselves in trouble?
I remember how I had my last malware problem, not sure exactly when, probably last century.  It was Chernobyl virus and I got it from a pirated game when my antivirus was disabled.  This virus could actually screw your bios making your motherboard useless, or that's what the story was then.  It didn't really cause me any trouble at all, it was detected and removed.  So how are people getting infected?  Do they think it's a good idea to install the fancy free screen saver?  Don't know a picture file shouldn't end in .exe?

I prefer MS because there is so much software for it, much of it free. 
Nearly all hardware works with it.
An enormous collection of Games are made for it.
For desktop computers the parts are cheap, easily obtained.
If a motherboard carks it you buy another for $100.
There are six laptops in the house, all work none has ever died and been tossed.

In the past a problem was sellers didn't supply an operating system disk for a clean install and they installed a lot of crap.  A DVD image for windows 7 can now be downloaded from MS.  Vista was a bit of a dog to start with but got better with subsequent service packs, Vista systems should never have been sold with less than 2GB of memory.

[Asmodean]

How do the windows users who have malware problems actually find themselves in trouble?

Pirated games, pirated songs, opening attachments in fishy e-mails, acepting fishy downloads from sites and porn. Do let us not forget porn.

Do they think it's a good idea to install the fancy free screen saver?  Don't know a picture file shouldn't end in .exe?

Pretty much. I share your overall sentiment though.

Vista systems should never have been sold with less than 2GB of memory.

I think the OS was intended to function optimally when maxed out on RAM at 32bits and with slightly more at 64.

[ThinkAnarchy]

How do the windows users who have malware problems actually find themselves in trouble?

Pirated games, pirated songs, opening attachments in fishy e-mails, acepting fishy downloads from sites and porn. Do let us not forget porn.

Do they think it's a good idea to install the fancy free screen saver?  Don't know a picture file shouldn't end in .exe?

Pretty much. I share your overall sentiment though.

Vista systems should never have been sold with less than 2GB of memory.

I think the OS was intended to function optimally when maxed out on RAM at 32bits and with slightly more at 64.

Even on my Mac I will download a file that doesn't show the extension, or accidentally click a link that automatically downloads a file. When I see that .exe extension in those downloads I laugh and laugh and laugh some more. Sometimes that file will try and open itself automatically too, so I laugh a little bit more.

[Asmodean]

or accidentally click a link that automatically downloads a file.

Why have you disabled the "confirm download"-prompter if you are prone to doing that?  ???