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AD's Derail of Your body does not belong to you, but to God

Started by AnimatedDirt, January 26, 2012, 08:26:08 PM

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DeterminedJuliet

Holy hell, where did that come from?

I have one of the most open and flexible minds around, but "I like everything" did not, in the slightest, indicate to me that she'd like rape and child molestation.

Did you assume that she was necrophiliac, as well? Or that she likes having sex with elephants? cuz, you know, that would fall under "everything". You're "allowed" to ask such questions, but I have no idea what would possess you to. Plus, even if she did like those things, I don't see how it's relevant to the conversation.

If someone says "Well, I like to eat a little of everything", would you say "OH REALLY, DO YOU EAT GARBAGE?!?!" Because that's how you're coming across.
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

Gawen

The essence of the mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks. Faith is the surrender of our mind; of reason and our skepticism to put all our trust or faith in someone or something that has no good evidence of itself. That is a sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith is not.
"When you fall, I will be there" - Floor

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 27, 2012, 12:01:56 AM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on January 26, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
Quote from: Ali on January 26, 2012, 11:21:54 PM
Not to speak for her, because she is certainly capable of speaking for herself, but I think it's pretty clear that she is talking about her relationship with her girlfriend.  Nowhere did she mention rape or child molesters, that was all you.

I'm not so sure...I see no mention of a gf.

Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 26, 2012, 03:34:34 PM
If god paid for my body, there are lots of issues to  fix, such as my ovary inbalance. T_T

Haha, I am the definition of sexual perversion. I like everything. Screw you god.

My bold.

So you take that LITERALLY and then have the nerve to accuse me of enjoying rape and child molestation?!
What the heck is wrong with you?!

Seriously, AD, you are playing on my last nerve here.

One moment.  This is some nerve HERE to accuse me of accusing you when in fact I asked for clarification because I was confused.  I think my words have been clear...as apparently yours were not.  The simple thing that could've been done is saying, "AD, are you serious?  Of course not...I was simply exaggerating for sake of point."  It would've ended there.

Now if we take a look back at the posts, who is accusing?  Many accusing me of various things.  I've ASKED for clarification of the choice of words used.  Someone mentioned necrophilia and sex with elephants...yet no one seems to be saying this person is making an accusation on the matter.  No, of course not, they're not accusing me of saying such things are they?  They are well within their right to question me now in the same manner as you all accuse me of doing to Sweetdeath.  How interesting this is to me.

In the least, this proves the many times I have tried and tried to say, "yes, it says that, but..."  But in those instances the condescending reply returns as, "no...it says exactly that so that's exactly what it MUST mean...it's right there in black and white...it can't be denied.  It must therefore be true."

Apparently only certain people can write words that say one thing, but mean something else...in context...and only certain people can interpret it as such.
Not that this was my intention, but it's funny how we have double-standards isn't it? 

At this moment, I don't feel this situation requires an apology from me to Sweetdeath, however, since she obviously is not happy about the situation,I gladly and whole-heartedly offer my sincere apologies to you, Sweetdeath.  It seemed odd, your choice of words considering things of that nature would be sensitive to you given your past and not just thrown about flippantly.

MadBomr101

- Bomr
I'm waiting for the movie of my life to be made.  It should cost about $7.23 and that includes the budget for special effects.

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 26, 2012, 09:24:03 PM

Haha, I am the definition of sexual perversion. I like everything. Screw you god.

Isn't that just a case of the person who is labelled as wrong taking the label, making it there own, destroying its power?
Queer, Geek, the "N" word and many other racist terms.  People have disarmed their attackers by owning their weapons.

AD does seem to be naive or strangely literal at times, I don't think he means to be hurtful though.

Quote from: AnimatedDirt on January 27, 2012, 02:30:16 AM
Apparently only certain people can write words that say one thing, but mean something else...in context...and only certain people can interpret it as such.

Words that are purported to be god's, that people use to shape theirs and other peoples lives should be held to a higher standard than a flippant forum post.

Tank

Quote from: AnimatedDirt on January 27, 2012, 02:30:16 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 27, 2012, 12:01:56 AM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on January 26, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
Quote from: Ali on January 26, 2012, 11:21:54 PM
Not to speak for her, because she is certainly capable of speaking for herself, but I think it's pretty clear that she is talking about her relationship with her girlfriend.  Nowhere did she mention rape or child molesters, that was all you.

I'm not so sure...I see no mention of a gf.

Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 26, 2012, 03:34:34 PM
If god paid for my body, there are lots of issues to  fix, such as my ovary inbalance. T_T

Haha, I am the definition of sexual perversion. I like everything. Screw you god.

My bold.

So you take that LITERALLY and then have the nerve to accuse me of enjoying rape and child molestation?!
What the heck is wrong with you?!

Seriously, AD, you are playing on my last nerve here.

One moment.  This is some nerve HERE to accuse me of accusing you when in fact I asked for clarification because I was confused.  I think my words have been clear...as apparently yours were not.  The simple thing that could've been done is saying, "AD, are you serious?  Of course not...I was simply exaggerating for sake of point."  It would've ended there.

Now if we take a look back at the posts, who is accusing?  Many accusing me of various things.  I've ASKED for clarification of the choice of words used.  Someone mentioned necrophilia and sex with elephants...yet no one seems to be saying this person is making an accusation on the matter.  No, of course not, they're not accusing me of saying such things are they?  They are well within their right to question me now in the same manner as you all accuse me of doing to Sweetdeath.  How interesting this is to me.

In the least, this proves the many times I have tried and tried to say, "yes, it says that, but..."  But in those instances the condescending reply returns as, "no...it says exactly that so that's exactly what it MUST mean...it's right there in black and white...it can't be denied.  It must therefore be true."

Apparently only certain people can write words that say one thing, but mean something else...in context...and only certain people can interpret it as such.
Not that this was my intention, but it's funny how we have double-standards isn't it? 

At this moment, I don't feel this situation requires an apology from me to Sweetdeath, however, since she obviously is not happy about the situation,I gladly and whole-heartedly offer my sincere apologies to you, Sweetdeath.  It seemed odd, your choice of words considering things of that nature would be sensitive to you given your past and not just thrown about flippantly.

Quoted to prevent revisionism/deletion. AD you really have gone too far this time. You say you don't need to apologise and then make a totally fake apology. How can your apology possibly be considered 'sincere' if you preface it with 'I don't feel this situation requires an apology from me'?  Apologies like that just don't cut it.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

pytheas

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Quote from: Gawen on January 27, 2012, 12:58:17 AM
Amazing how this thread went to hell....

Yeah! As if I started a topic on : If I could fuck with jesus, obviously we would be tangled in a flying projectory sandwiching Mary while buggered by Judas-him, and Jeus-me

Mercy dear god for I have not Fucked thee Enough

And how on earth did a subject of basic self-definition with which "rights" of self-activity towards oneself are defined and wrestles with the notion of responsibility and dignity (-or lack of)-a matter of personal awakening and liberation

stray into raping and child molesting, both activities that you exercise on to others, which need protection by human law for society survival, and the preservation of the most valuable asset of humanity, child innocence.- a matter of clear-cut legislature
"Not what we have But what we enjoy, constitutes our abundance."
"Freedom is the greatest fruit of self-sufficiency"
"Nothing is enough for the man to whom enough is too little."
by EPICURUS 4th century BCE

Davin

Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.

Asmodean

Quote from: Stevil on January 27, 2012, 12:09:26 AM
If this is the case AD, can you please be a bit more sensitive to SD? (in light of her personal experiences)
Please
Being insensitive in such matters without offending or otherwise hurting too many people is an art it takes a lifetime to perfect.

...And The Asmo, he is well on his way. AD is not The Asmo though. Wrong stuff after the A and whatnot...
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Tank on January 27, 2012, 09:18:23 AM
Quoted to prevent revisionism/deletion. AD you really have gone too far this time. You say you don't need to apologise and then make a totally fake apology. How can your apology possibly be considered 'sincere' if you preface it with 'I don't feel this situation requires an apology from me'?  Apologies like that just don't cut it.

If you cannot see the difference between an apology for the situation but seeing a need to apologize to the person that was hurt as a result, then so be it.  You can think it doesn't "cut it" all you want.  If Sweetdeath feels the apology is insincere, I can't help that.  I've done my part and have said what I think need be said to set things on a better path.

YOU, however, seem to be bent on making it worse.   But who cares anyway...I'm just a deluded Christian, right?

BTW...why would I go back and revise my words??  Silly, just plain silly, petty games, "quoting to prevent..."  Seriously?

Tank

Quote from: AnimatedDirt on January 27, 2012, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 27, 2012, 09:18:23 AM
Quoted to prevent revisionism/deletion. AD you really have gone too far this time. You say you don't need to apologise and then make a totally fake apology. How can your apology possibly be considered 'sincere' if you preface it with 'I don't feel this situation requires an apology from me'?  Apologies like that just don't cut it.

If you cannot see the difference between an apology for the situation but seeing a need to apologize to the person that was hurt as a result, then so be it.  You can think it doesn't "cut it" all you want.  If Sweetdeath feels the apology is insincere, I can't help that.  I've done my part and have said what I think need be said to set things on a better path.

YOU, however, seem to be bent on making it worse.   But who cares anyway...I'm just a deluded Christian, right?

BTW...why would I go back and revise my words??  Silly, just plain silly, petty games, "quoting to prevent..."  Seriously?
Quit the passive aggressive shit AD. I've had enough of it. You can spend the next seven days considering why it is inappropriate to raise the details of SD's involuntary sexual history in the context of her consensual sexual practices. - Tank
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
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'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

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If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Guardian85



"If scientist means 'not the dumbest motherfucker in the room,' I guess I'm a scientist, then."
-Unknown Smartass-

Sweetdeath

Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

Ali

I think it's from that movie with the psycho killer with the Dorothy Hamill haircut.