Israelis Facing a Seismic Rift Over Role of Women

[DeterminedJuliet]

In the three months since the Israeli Health Ministry awarded a prize to a pediatrics professor for her book on hereditary diseases common to Jews, her experience at the awards ceremony has become a rallying cry.

Not only did Dr. Maayan and her husband have to sit separately, as men and women were segregated at the event, but she was instructed that a male colleague would have to accept the award for her because women were not permitted on stage

This appeared on the "Global Secular Humanist Movement" facebook page. Insane.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/world/middleeast/israel-faces-crisis-over-role-of-ultra-orthodox-in-society.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all%3Fsrc%3Dtp&smid=fb-share

[Tank]

Holy Shit! Where do these arseholes get their fucked up ideas from?! A fucking bunch a sexist, ignorant morons. They are a disgrace to their gender and humanity!  

[Traveler]

What Tank said.

[Ali]

Did you see the link in the article to the story about the ultra-Orthadox men spitting on an 8 year old girl because she wasn't dressed modestly enough to suit them?    What kind of man spits on a little girl?!? ZOMG if that were my daughter I would come unglued.  Those jokers should be ashamed to even call themselves "men."

[The Magic Pudding]

The Israel Defense Forces differs from most armed forces in the world in many ways. Differences include the conscription of women

That's just from a wiki, it's what I thought the situation was, a strange contradiction.

[Asmodean]

...And then some assholes call me an anti-semite for being against the apartheid state of Israel. Is an eyesore to The Asmo's orbital statue.

[Sweetdeath]

Yeah, not a fan of the jewish for a reason....


I'll take an Asmo statue!

[Tank]

Yeah, not a fan of the jewish for a reason....


I'll take an Asmo statue!

You have met all jews? I don't think so.

[Asmodean]

Yeah, not a fan of the jewish for a reason....


I'll take an Asmo statue!

You have met all jews? I don't think so.

It's not the Jews in general, it's Judaism in general.

[Tank]

Yeah, not a fan of the jewish for a reason....


I'll take an Asmo statue!

You have met all jews? I don't think so.

It's not the Jews in general, it's Judaism in general.

Yes. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc, all the institutionalised superstitions. What do the say hate the sin (thism) not the sinner (theist) 

[Sweetdeath]

Forgot to specify super religious jewish people? I mean Judism is kinda  horrible.  We have isolated jewish communities in new york city, and the women are extremely opressed.

They are also so sad.

[OldGit]

Remember when that newspaper removed Hillary Clinton from a news photo.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/05/hasidic-paper-removes-hillary-clinton-from-osama-picture-567.html

[Tank]

Remember when that newspaper removed Hillary Clinton from a news photo.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/05/hasidic-paper-removes-hillary-clinton-from-osama-picture-567.html

It's not just Hillary they cut out. Their is another lady at the back and she go cut out as well.

[Ali]

I think like most groups, it depends on the Jews.  My inlaws are devoutly Jewish, and I actually have a lot more respect for them and their religious beliefs than I do most of the religious people I know.  Sure, there is the whole "believing in and basing your life around something that doesn't seem to actually exist" problem, but I think that what they take away from their religion is commendable.  They put a high premium on knowledge and education (not just religious education.)  They put a very high premium on giving and living charity.  They don't just write a check to a charity, they actually open their homes to people in need (as well as giving money and services to charity.)  They don't believe in hell, so they come to their religion not from a place of fear, but from a place of voluntarily giving their obedience and love to a higher power.  They are Conservative Jews (rather than Orthodox) and they consider women equal to men, and do not separate women from men or insist that women be silent in shul or put limits on what role women can play (for example, they have women rabbis and women cantors.)

Point being, not all Jews are of the "spitting on little girls" persuasion.  It's easy to look at stories like these and think "how appalling" but I think that in Judaism (like every other religion) it's the fanatics that are really the majority of the problem.