The grass is looking greener on the other side...

[Asmodean]

Don't want to be a buzzkill, but not your typical is a minor, so prudence is advised.

Nah... She's a cool minor.

[Tank]

Don't want to be a buzzkill, but not your typical is a minor, so prudence is advised.

In what respect, should we lie to her and if so which lies are acceptable or not?

[Tank]

Parent, grandparent, attorney, pastor.  Bad combination, I guess.

Yeah.... Not helping me in the slightest.

Spot-on youngling 

[Asmodean]

Don't want to be a buzzkill, but not your typical is a minor, so prudence is advised.

In what respect, should we lie to her and if so which lies are acceptable or not?

I suppose with Noselrub being the dreadful combination of factors and professions that he is, he'd want to throw suicide attempts and letter openers in peoples eyes out of the window, to which my response would be "why..?"

I would put it this way: the moment you consider someone old enough to read the bible or hear the stories derived thereof, you should also consider them old enough for any conversation you would engage an adult in. Just to avoid being a hypocrite...

[Stevil]

Hi. I'm Becca. I am a Christian

Hello Becca

Welcome on board, I think you will find that Atheists are a tolerant bunch, well, as long as you aren't a pushy salesperson.
You sound like a very decent person, I like that.

You also seem to have a reasonable tolerance and thinking mind. I would certainly be interested to understand more about you and how your Christianity influences some of your opinions. There must be some clashes there, although it does seem that Christians are allowed to interpret the scriptures in a way that suits your own prior opinions.

[DeterminedJuliet]

Don't want to be a buzzkill, but not your typical is a minor, so prudence is advised.

Prudence about what, exactly?

Yeah, ???

I don't think I've ever seen someone make sexual advances or try to sell other members alcohol on these boards.

[Whitney]

Don't want to be a buzzkill, but not your typical is a minor, so prudence is advised.

Prudence about what, exactly?

Ya...I don't understand why the comment came up either...I didn't see anyone offer advise that would be illegal (at least not in the US) or who has made sexual advances.  Both of those should be generally avoided (especially the first) on the forum no matter what the age of the poster.

Would it be better if we advised her not to give your aunt the bird when the aunt is extremely rude by telling her that she is going to hell?   Actually...that would be my advice as there is probably a more effective response that could effect change but generally teenagers only have so many options (comply or rebel...very few get to act somewhere in the middle).

[Davin]

Don't want to be a buzzkill, but not your typical is a minor, so prudence is advised.

In what respect, should we lie to her and if so which lies are acceptable or not?

I suppose with Noselrub being the dreadful combination of factors and professions that he is, he'd want to throw suicide attempts and letter openers in peoples eyes out of the window, to which my response would be "why..?"

I would put it this way: the moment you consider someone old enough to read the bible or hear the stories derived thereof, you should also consider them old enough for any conversation you would engage an adult in. Just to avoid being a hypocrite...

Just because of all the nasty stuff that happens in the bible? Actually I very much agree, if you think a kid can read about incest, murder, genocide, rape, violence, racism, condoned slavery, baby killing, wars and cursing... then what could they read that could possibly be any worse?

[Sandra Craft]

Don't want to be a buzzkill, but not your typical is a minor, so prudence is advised.

Prudence about what, exactly?

Yeah, ???

I don't think I've ever seen someone make sexual advances or try to sell other members alcohol on these boards.

Pssst.  Hey, kid, ya want some maryjane?  Somehow, I don't really see things like that being effective on a message board. 

[not your typical...]

Nah... She's a cool minor.

Thank you.

Spot-on youngling 
In what respect, should we lie to her and if so which lies are acceptable or not?

Don't lie to me. That would make me coming to this forum completely pointless.

You also seem to have a reasonable tolerance and thinking mind. I would certainly be interested to understand more about you and how your Christianity influences some of your opinions. There must be some clashes there, although it does seem that Christians are allowed to interpret the scriptures in a way that suits your own prior opinions.

Stevil, the only clashes I've ever had with my Atheist friends are about the Big Bang Theory (the actual theory, not the show. ) and evolution. Even before I was Christian, I didn't accept the belief of people coming from monkeys... I just don't see it. While we are similar species, and they are the closest to humans in comparison, there is always one question that keeps me from accepting it. Where are the half-monkey half-men species that are still stuck in the middle of the process? If you can find one and send it to me, I'll renounce my faith. I've seen closer proof of Pokemon existing though, so it might take a bit of convincing.
Pokemon DO exist!

Just because of all the nasty stuff that happens in the bible? Actually I very much agree, if you think a kid can read about incest, murder, genocide, rape, violence, racism, condoned slavery, baby killing, wars and cursing... then what could they read that could possibly be any worse?

Yeah... tried reading the Bible in sixth grade and using religion as a crutch... I almost worked... kinda.  I read Revelations and Song of Solomon. Two words. Never. Again.

[Stevil]

Even before I was Christian, I didn't accept the belief of people coming from monkeys... I just don't see it.

Would you say that you believe evolution is wrong or would you say that you currently disbelieve the evolution theory?

[not your typical...]

Would you say that you believe evolution is wrong or would you say that you currently disbelieve the evolution theory?

Currently disbelieve the theory. If it there was more proof and it became a scientific law, I'd believe it.

[Davin]

Just because of all the nasty stuff that happens in the bible? Actually I very much agree, if you think a kid can read about incest, murder, genocide, rape, violence, racism, condoned slavery, baby killing, wars and cursing... then what could they read that could possibly be any worse?

Yeah... tried reading the Bible in sixth grade and using religion as a crutch... I almost worked... kinda.  I read Revelations and Song of Solomon. Two words. Never. Again.

I don't know what age sixth grade is, I didn't go to a public school until college, but I read the bible when I was nine and had issues with it then.

Would you say that you believe evolution is wrong or would you say that you currently disbelieve the evolution theory?

Currently disbelieve the theory. If it there was more proof and it became a scientific law, I'd believe it.

Be careful there, gravity is "just" a theory as well. But we have more evidence and corroboration for evolution than we do for the theory of gravity. Other theories that you must throw into the disbelieve bucket with evolution and gravity are: germ theory (don't you believe in germs?), relativity, modern atomic theory, cell theory and plate tectonic theory are the big ones off the top of my head.

[not your typical...]

I don't know what age sixth grade is, I didn't go to a public school until college, but I read the bible when I was nine and had issues with it then.
Be careful there, gravity is "just" a theory as well. But we have more evidence and corroboration for evolution than we do for the theory of gravity. Other theories that you must throw into the disbelieve bucket with evolution and gravity are: germ theory (don't you believe in germs?), relativity, modern atomic theory, cell theory and plate tectonic theory are the big ones off the top of my head.

I was 11, and Christian and had issues with it. As for gravity, I believe it's a hoax that keeps people from learning how to fly... But that's just me. One of these days I will fly, without the use of an airplane.

[Asmodean]

One of these days I will fly, without the use of an airplane.

Just in case you see the ground rush at you much faster than expected... Pack a parachute  You see, it only counts as flying (Gliding, really) if you manage a certain amount of horizontal motion for every unit of lost height. Otherwise, it's just anvil kind of falling.