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Started by SuperiorEd, September 26, 2011, 12:47:07 AM

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SuperiorEd

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Quote from: Tank on September 30, 2011, 09:51:50 AM
Folks, if you haven't read the book then it's not very civil to slag off the work of a fellow member. Has anybody read the book?

The book, for those who wonder, is the same as my teaching philosophy.  I separate church and state completely.  I would not want someone teaching my child religion in the school and I did not use any religious references in my book.  The entire book is based on the Superior Man of Confucius.  I asked the question, what does it take to be a Superior Educator.  The entirety of the book is based on a calm and assertive approach to education to preserve the dignity of the child.  The approach used by others on this forum is the opposite of this method.  In my method, bias, anger, condescension and prejudice is removed from the teacher's approach so that equality between the student and teacher is preserved.  Bias can only build ground for the other person to stand against you.


SuperiorEd

Quote from: Asmodean on September 30, 2011, 06:57:38 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 29, 2011, 03:31:20 AM
A book for the faint of heart, perhaps? ;D
...Which has sold like... 100 copies..? All of them purchased by SuperEddie..?  ;)

Try 5000+ in the last couple of years with no promotion.  The book is sold by the largest music retailer in the world (JW Pepper) and on Amazon.  It is used at the university level and by many schools for their teacher in-services.  Our local university requires it for as a supplement in their education classes.  Order a copy.  It is inexpensive on Kindle.

SuperiorEd

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Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on September 30, 2011, 01:30:18 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 30, 2011, 09:51:50 AM
Folks, if you haven't read the book then it's not very civil to slag off the work of a fellow member. Has anybody read the book?

I've read through a fair bit of his blog, which has lengthy quotes from his book. What I saw was very similar to what was written here.


The only quote from my book is the first article on the Blog.  It is the 2nd chapter to the book.  My blog is a personal reflection on education , philosophy, technology and religion.  The articles are separated between these but never contain a mixture of religion and education unless I am referring to philosophy of being educated.  Possibly you only skimmed the articles and made assumptions.  

https://sites.google.com/site/superclassroommanagement/articles-by-stephen-t-mcclard

Perhaps you would most enjoy the article on Guilt and Shame in the classroom.  This article would provide a good example on how to avoid your own bias against people.  As I stated in the OP, speak to the subject and do not step on the object.  This is important in life and keeps your personal prejudice against others in check.  Martin Luther said, Judge a man on the content of his character and not the color of his skin.  We may as well include faith in this too.  Bias only reveals your own hatred toward others.  I have only written toward the subject.

 


xSilverPhinx

I'm sorry for the quick judgement, without having read your book. I'm just to used to idiotic teachers to bother thinking things through beforehand these days.
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


SuperiorEd

#94
Quote from: Tank on September 30, 2011, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: Davin on September 30, 2011, 04:34:43 PM
I wonder if being condescending and arrogant is part of his method for teaching people. If it is, he should probably fix that.
One could only hope not. I can only imagine him spouting this pseudo scientific gobbaldy gook in front of vulnerable kids, the thought frankly fills me with dread.

I do not speak about religion in a band class--ever.  Church and state should be separate.  I speak about music.  I do, however, live the same Christ-like character of agape love in the classroom, on the street and even when no one is looking.  My actions and words always match my character.  I do not use any substances, drink alcohol or use foul language.  My moral character is beyond reproach.  If given the choice between me and an Atheist, who would you rather your kids be with on a field trip?  Be honest.


SuperiorEd

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 01, 2011, 04:36:45 AM
I'm sorry for the quick judgement, without having read your book. I'm just to used to idiotic teachers to bother thinking things through beforehand these days.

No problem.  Email me and I'll send you a free copy.  superiored@gmail.com

Sweetdeath

Well, i'm an atheist who doesn't drink or do drugs. o_o  Are you generalising?  *puzzled*
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

Stevil

Quote from: SuperiorEd on October 01, 2011, 04:43:38 AM
I do not speak about religion in a band class--ever.  Church and state should be separate.  I speak about music.  I do, however, live the same Christ-like character of agape love in the classroom, on the street and even when no one is looking.  My actions and words always match my character.  I do not use any substances, drink alcohol or use foul language.  My moral character is beyond reproach.  If given the choice between me and an Atheist, who would you rather your kids be with on a field trip?  Be honest.
Hitler didn't drink or do drugs either, I wouldn't want him to look after my kids.

I would always be very weary of someone that says "My moral character is beyond reproach". If a potential baby sitter came up with that one it would raise a red flag in my mind.
If I were hiring between you and an Atheist, actually I probably wouldn't know you are Christian and I wouldn't know that the Atheist was an atheist. I wouldn't ask a person about their religion as part of hiring criteria.

I do however like your stance "Church and state should be separate"

xSilverPhinx

As someone who sees no sense whatsoever in any objective absolute morality, it isn't very convincing when someone says that they're moral character is beyond reproach. It depends on who's involved. Saying that you don't do things for the wrong reasons would be better put, IMO.

Also, just because someone's a Christian is no guarantee that they're moral.
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Sandra Craft

Quote from: SuperiorEd on October 01, 2011, 04:43:38 AM
My actions and words always match my character.  I do not use any substances, drink alcohol or use foul language.  My moral character is beyond reproach.  If given the choice between me and an Atheist, who would you rather your kids be with on a field trip?  Be honest.

Given no more background information than that, the atheist.  It's very nice that you walk your talk, don't alter your mood artifically or cuss (altho sometimes foul language is the best way to describe a situation).  I will take your word that your moral character is beyond repoach, altho bearing in mind both that it is only your word and I don't know exactly how you define moral, since nothing that you wrote before necessarily has anything to do with it.  However, since you seem to have automatically assumed that an atheist is morally inferior to you, I do greatly doubt your judgement and good sense so no, you don't get to lead the field trip.

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Martin Luther said, Judge a man on the content of his character and not the color of his skin. 

I thought that was Martin Luther King?
Sandy

  

"Life is short, and it is up to you to make it sweet."  Sarah Louise Delany

Asmodean

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 01, 2011, 04:36:45 AM
I'm sorry for the quick judgement, without having read your book. I'm just to used to idiotic teachers to bother thinking things through beforehand these days.
I second.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Recusant

#101
Quote from: SuperiorEd on October 01, 2011, 04:23:38 AM...I asked the question, what does it take to be a Superior Educator.  The entirety of the book is based on a calm and assertive approach to education to preserve the dignity of the child.  The approach used by others on this forum is the opposite of this method.

Does your approach include ignoring calm and assertive responses to your assertions?
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Tank

Quote from: SuperiorEd on October 01, 2011, 04:43:38 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 30, 2011, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: Davin on September 30, 2011, 04:34:43 PM
I wonder if being condescending and arrogant is part of his method for teaching people. If it is, he should probably fix that.
One could only hope not. I can only imagine him spouting this pseudo scientific gobbaldy gook in front of vulnerable kids, the thought frankly fills me with dread.

I do not speak about religion in a band class--ever.  Church and state should be separate.  I speak about music.  I do, however, live the same Christ-like character of agape love in the classroom, on the street and even when no one is looking.  My actions and words always match my character.  I do not use any substances, drink alcohol or use foul language.  My moral character is beyond reproach.  If given the choice between me and an Atheist, who would you rather your kids be with on a field trip?  Be honest.
Apart from the obvious lack of humility  ;)

You are implying you have some sort of moral superiority to an athiest, in fact that you have some sort of moral superiority to all atheists. You imply that atheists are somehow untrustworthy. I think that says enough about you that I wouldn't want you within 1,000 miles of my kids. Fortunatly they are all grown up and have a healthy disrespect for all institutionalised superstitions and those people that promote them.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Sweetdeath

You're such a good dad, Tank.  It makes me wanna have hot cocoa with you, and listen to old stories. XD
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

Tank

Quote from: Sweetdeath on October 01, 2011, 09:50:45 AM
You're such a good dad, Tank.  It makes me wanna have hot cocoa with you, and listen to old stories. XD
We'll if you ever get to the UK and you don't come for a cup of hot cocoa I shall be seriously disappointed.  :)
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.