Re: Who do you really hate?

[Medusa]

Well they sure ain't getting fat off of carrot stix.

I hope that was a joke, rather than you missing/ignoring the point completely.

Well they don't. 

[ThinkAnarchy]

Well they sure ain't getting fat off of carrot stix.

I hope that was a joke, rather than you missing/ignoring the point completely.

Well they don't.  

People do choke on them, therefor I win. 

[Medusa]

Ok ok. In all seriousness I think the intentions for fast food was a very nifty idea. In fact I agree with all your reasons. My problem is that the fatties of America have not supplemented certain weekly meals with convenient fast food..they have crossed right on over to every single meal. The problem is the consumer for sure. But learning about the shady practices of fast food restaurants doesn't sit well with me either. I personally eat fast food about 4 days a week. I eat at Pollo Loco off the heart healthy menu. No fat. No fried. Nada. I have learned to be an educated consumer. It's the only place I go to unless it's Subway. I've given up completely on fast food. After having a heart attack at the age of 36 I've learned the dumb lesson pretty well.

Fast food ads are geared toward the children. And why? Because the children will then be a 24/7 all you can blab up close and personal commercial to the parent that will listen and give in. Is it legal? Sure. But it is ethical? Probably not gonna put them on the table next to Gandhi.

I place the blame on the savvy industry and the lazy consumer.

[Sweetdeath]

;_; Think Arnarchy, I am not attacking the fast food industry, but it seems dispicable that I need to walk about a mile from my neighorhood to get to A FEW healthier options. In a three block radius I hace; a mcdonalds, burger king, kennedy fried chicken (diff from kentucky) annd a Dominos pizza!  Like seriously?  If I want subway sammich, that is a mile away. It is annoying.

I only want more places in general to serve healthier food.   If I have no choice, I get pizza. D:

[Will]

I'm not too wild about politicians right now. I wouldn't say I hate them, but I do think the world would be a better place if the greedy, ambitious, and amoral were in positions that didn't allow them to wreak such damage. While a few are trying to do the right thing, the majority seem to only be interested in keeping their seats and gaining from selling their influence to the highest bidder. It's a shame, really, because we're living in a time of opportunity unprecedented in human history. We could do so much good, prevent so much suffering right now with the civilization we've built. It seems so horrible that we're bogged down in such petty nonsense.

I'm also very unhappy with soulless corporations acting only on the profit motive, with absolutely no consideration for the human element. Corporations like Monsanto, Dow, Haliburton, KBR, DynCorp, Lockheed Martin, Phillip-Morris, and BP are causing untold human suffering. These are corporations headed by boards of human beings, who consciously make the decision to place the value of profits over the good of humankind. What they're doing should be investigated and prosecuted instead of protected and praised. Again, maybe not hate, but certainly I feel some very negative emotions associated with them.

There are times I wish I could do more as an individual to correct these injustices. Unfortunately, against political and corporate power, the only real weapon is collective effort by the many.

[ThinkAnarchy]

Ok ok. In all seriousness I think the intentions for fast food was a very nifty idea. In fact I agree with all your reasons. My problem is that the fatties of America have not supplemented certain weekly meals with convenient fast food..they have crossed right on over to every single meal. The problem is the consumer for sure. But learning about the shady practices of fast food restaurants doesn't sit well with me either. I personally eat fast food about 4 days a week. I eat at Pollo Loco off the heart healthy menu. No fat. No fried. Nada. I have learned to be an educated consumer. It's the only place I go to unless it's Subway. I've given up completely on fast food. After having a heart attack at the age of 36 I've learned the dumb lesson pretty well.

Sorry about the heart attack at such a young age. I'm a bit worried about my own health, I don't think I have the healthiest of hearts. With that said, it is our own choice what we put into our bodies, just as you said. After that experience, you changed your eating habits and I imagine, have made other steps to live a healthier lifestyle.

Fast food ads are geared toward the children. And why? Because the children will then be a 24/7 all you can blab up close and personal commercial to the parent that will listen and give in. Is it legal? Sure. But it is ethical? Probably not gonna put them on the table next to Gandhi.

Yes they gear their advertising to children, just as many industries do. The toy industry doesn't advertise to parents. They instead advertise to the children in order to get them to pester their parents for this new hot toy. The parent is not required to give into their child's wishes, just as they don't have to take them to Popeye's when they start throwing a temper tantrum.

Businesses advertise to the most effective demographic. When it comes to many consumer products, companies target women, seeing as they typically do the most shopping. With electronics, they tend to target men.

If you notice however, since the downturn in the U.S. economy, fast food has shifted its advertising focus. They now seem to be advertising their cheaper meals, rather than advertising to the children.

I place the blame on the savvy industry and the lazy consumer.

I don't think there is any blame. Consumers have a right to be lazy and industry has a right to be savvy. Ultimately, the consumers are being made happy, even if it's at their own detriment because of the business being savvy by wanting to make a profit.

[ThinkAnarchy]

;_; Think Arnarchy, I am not attacking the fast food industry, but it seems dispicable that I need to walk about a mile from my neighorhood to get to A FEW healthier options. In a three block radius I hace; a mcdonalds, burger king, kennedy fried chicken (diff from kentucky) annd a Dominos pizza!  Like seriously?  If I want subway sammich, that is a mile away. It is annoying.

I only want more places in general to serve healthier food.   If I have no choice, I get pizza. D:

That has to do with demand. Clearly the majority of the people in your area prefer those types of options. It is hard to compare things like this from town to town, but in my area I'm a 10 minute drive from a Dominoes, Papa Johns, at least 3 Local Pizza places, Taco Bell, Wendy's, McDonalds, Burger King, Pita Pit, Canes (Chicken Fingers), Subway, Quiznos, Panda Express, etc. I'm sure I could name a bunch more, but you get the idea.

I'm curious as to what kind of city you live in. A mile within your radius will mean different things depending on the city. If you live in NYC I would expect there to be more options within a mile, but if you live in a less dense city, a mile is not that far. It aslo would depend on what area of the city you reside in. If you live on the outskirts or in a residential area, of course there are fewer options. If you live in the downtown area, there should be more options closer to where you live.

What I'm getting at is this: I don't know if the mile radius your complaining about is justified.

I live in a residential area and there are no food option other than a few sit down restaurants, bars, and connivence stores in my area of the city.

[Sweetdeath]

Well, sadly for me I live in a pretty spanish and black populated area, so I guess they just don't care about their health as much.


I do walk to the wealthier type area to obtain better food. I also live near a hospital, so the cafes there rock.

[Medusa]

It seems the poorer the neighborhood the more fast food places.

[ThinkAnarchy]

It seems the poorer the neighborhood the more fast food places.

And @ Sweet Death

Because the poor can't afford the healthier options. I eat off the dollar menu a lot when I'm broke and if there weren't fast food options close by, I would have to burn more gas to get to them. Also, produce is expensive and not filling.

This may seem a bit racist, but I don't care. I don't know many black people who like healthy food. They tend to eat soul food, which doesn't appear to be healthy, not that I have anything against that. A black friend of mine offered me some once and I wouldn't even try it because it looked so unappealing. They also love fried foods, as do I. If you live in a minority community, the businesses are going to cater to the minorities. They will cater to their food preferences and/or financial situations.

Al Copeland, the original owner of Popeyes, started his business by opening up shop in minority communities. He offered food his customers wanted at affordable prices. They were also very filling.

[Medusa]

I don't think it's racist. It's merely a fact. As a Hispanic I understand my culture and our foods. It's really about cheap food and the only way to make it good is usually to add bad stuff to it! I mean plain beans or beans in bacon fat with cheese. The choice is easy.

But... I also go to a Mexican market and pick up all my fresh fruits there quite cheap. You can get good fresh food. But then it's a matter of changing the cultural eating habits as well. We have to start in our own kitchens.

[ThinkAnarchy]

^^^
Don't criticize bacon. That shit goes well with anything. Have you ever had bacon wrapped green beans? There is no better way to make a healthy vegetable deliciously unhealthy.  

[Medusa]

^^^
Don't criticize bacon. That shit goes good with anything. Have you ever had bacon wrapped green beans? There is no better way to make a healthy vegetable deliciously unhealthy. 

In a few years I will be porky piggy free. 
No pork allowed in our house in Egypt!

[Hidelight]

Well they sure ain't getting fat off of carrot stix.

I hope that was a joke, rather than you missing/ignoring the point completely.

Sorry, you have no idea how hard it is for me to post

But after reading further ...honestly the statements have been a bit more offensive than a problem with punctuation!


So I could give a shit how you feel about how I type...but thanks for pointing out how much it annoys you

LOL

Perfection...sorry not for me

[Tank]

Well they sure ain't getting fat off of carrot stix.

I hope that was a joke, rather than you missing/ignoring the point completely.

Sorry, you have no idea how hard it is for me to post

But after reading further ...honestly the statements have been a bit more offensive than a problem with punctuation!


So I could give a shit how you feel about how I type...but thanks for pointing out how much it annoys you

LOL

Perfection...sorry not for me

I have absolutely no idea why people are grumbling at your posts. Given the relatively few people who can be arsed to post here some days I think all posts from all members should be loudly applauded!! << see that? Double exclamation marks!