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Started by Tank, June 29, 2011, 12:29:23 PM

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Recusant

#75


The graphic is showing the amount of change in the period under consideration, so some states that may have already been higher in respondents who claimed "No Religion" in 1990 wouldn't necessarily show up in the higher numbers. Even with not as much change, those states would still be less religious overall.


As can be seen from the above representation of recent Gallup poll data, some of the states with low numbers in the "change" graphic were apparently less religious to start with.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Crow

#76
Quote from: Firebird on June 25, 2012, 03:51:02 AM
Seeing Wyoming so high on the list was surprising too.

Don't forget that's a graph in change of percentage of the "no religion" category. Therefore it still may be very low down in terms of total percentage but has changed a lot from the prior survey. For example in total it might be 20% but the change from point A to point B was 14%. Whereas California might have a total of 60% (just an example not a real figure) but only went up from 56% on the last survey.

[edit] FFS I need to read the posts between the person I am replying to.
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fester30

Quote from: Recusant on June 25, 2012, 04:29:37 AM
The graphic is showing the amount of change in the period under consideration, so some states that may have already been higher in respondents who claimed "No Religion" in 1990 wouldn't necessarily show up in the higher numbers. Even with not as much change, those states would still be less religious overall.


As can be seen from the above representation of recent Gallup poll data, some of the states with low numbers in the "change" graphic were apparently less religious to start with.

I would love to see a map of concentrations of NASCAR fans and see how well it matches up with this map.

Sweetdeath

Alaska is not religious?? Isn't that where that loon Sarah Palin is from?



Also, surprised California is still religious, but i am guessing that is from all the mexicans migrating up there.  ::)
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Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

Ali

#79
I'm doing my cocked head raised eyebrows smiling politely face right now.  Only, the smile isn't all that polite.

It's weird that in a thread where we all acknowledge that it's not cool to be all judgy and mean towards one minority group, it's still cool to denigrate another minority group. 

En_Route

Quote from: Ali on June 25, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
I'm doing my cocked head raised eyebrows smiling politely face right now.  Only, the smile isn't all that polite.

It's weird that in a thread where we all acknowledge that it's not cool to be all judgy and mean towards one minority group, it's still cool to denigrate another minority group. 

I am reliably informed that the vast majority of Mexicans are cannibals.
Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them (Orwell).

Ali

LOL  (insert "bite me" joke here.)

Sandra Craft

#82
Quote from: En_Route on June 25, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 25, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
I'm doing my cocked head raised eyebrows smiling politely face right now.  Only, the smile isn't all that polite.

It's weird that in a thread where we all acknowledge that it's not cool to be all judgy and mean towards one minority group, it's still cool to denigrate another minority group.  

I am reliably informed that the vast majority of Mexicans are cannibals.

I was wondering what was in that taco.  But seriously, California (at least many parts of it) has been conservative and religious for a long time and that has more to do with the number of Baptists than the number of Mexicans.
Sandy

  

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fester30

California was religious enough to vote against gay marriage. 

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Ali on June 25, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
I'm doing my cocked head raised eyebrows smiling politely face right now.  Only, the smile isn't all that polite.

It's weird that in a thread where we all acknowledge that it's not cool to be all judgy and mean towards one minority group, it's still cool to denigrate another minority group.

( x2 )

Crow

Quote from: Sweetdeath on June 25, 2012, 04:58:48 PM
but i am guessing that is from all the mexicans migrating up there.  ::)

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Ali

^^That made me laugh.  I'm thinking about growing a mustache like that.

Sweetdeath

Quote from: fester30 on June 25, 2012, 08:00:43 PM
California was religious enough to vote against gay marriage. 

the law went through, but was vetoed or something, correct?
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

Recusant

Proposition 8 was ruled unconstitutional in 2010, but it is still being fought in the courts. I think that the most recent decision was by a 3 judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld the 2010 ruling. The latest I've heard is that it's likely to make it to the Supreme Court of the US.

In a very interesting development, one of the main witnesses in favor of Prop. 8 in the trial has reversed his position and has now come out in favor of same sex marriage.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Java

For some reason, I think homosexuality can be naturally repressed.. and I know that sounds crazy but here's my story.

I'm bi with heavy leanings towards women. I was pretty much straight up until I turned 15 (I'm 23 now) and found out that, yes, two girls can be together. It's not that I was against it.. I have a Christian family, sadly.. but it was never brought up so I literally didn't know that existed- in my mind. I don't know how to explain my brain but when I found out about lesbians.. it was like a door opening. It was like, "Oh, wow. Something to wrap my head around." and it turns out, later on, I really liked it. I mean.. I was probably aware that it was there. I was drug to church on Sundays so that's probably something they had issues with a lot..

BUT, I believe there were things repressing this. I had something happen to me when I was little and it never affected me until later in life- when I hit puberty. Guys were ok up until a few years, after puberty and learning about everything plus dating, when my brain decided to remind me of past events. Now it's all I can think about and I somewhat fear guys. It doesn't help that my mother is bat-shi* paranoid and thinks that looking at someone funny will get you killed.

So.. if any of that makes sense.. I think your brain can repress homosexuality naturally. Either that.. or my brain turns my fear of men towards me liking women more.
Zombies are here already. They're called "the religious."