Hi, not Atheist

[The Magic Pudding]

I don't see how a concept of God would alleviate people's fears of the world, please elaborate...Are you trying to explain why God was created? Have you ever heard the phrase "Fear of God?"

Everyday you go out hunting with your people some days you don't all come back, maybe only a third of your children reach their teens.  An afterlife would be comforting in such a situation, geez an afterlife would probably comfort me if I could actually believe.  Great Barrier reef suffers another year of bleaching, doesn't matter there's sure to be a better one in the next life.

M.P Some people may have the need for a god to hold their reality together,

Reality is held together...what are you talking about?

Some people have a hard time living with the idea death is the end.  Personally I would find it hard if I had to bury my children, it was so common not that long ago.

M.P.  I don't see any thing in the world to confirm god is anything but an idea, I just see the fear and the reasons for fear.

You can see the world, but not god maybe because you think god is something in the world...I don't find that to be the case, and you don't really, "just see fear," do you? There is obviously more than that...

There is more than that but fear is enough for one sentence, I don't think religions were created to say thanks.

M.P. If a philosopher is telling you time doesn't exist after you die, you should probably find a new philosopher.  How do they explain your parents attaining the required maturity to conceive you?

great reading comprehension yourself, I never said a philosopher said time doesn't exist after we die, but whatever I can't control what you hear...How would I explain parents attaining the required maturity to conceive me? Well, obviously through time, but if you knew anything about physics, you would know time is relative, for example answer these questions: How long are you gonna wait to be born? Or after you die, how long do you wait for everyone else to die?
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I don't think my waiting has any effect on time, I've watched a pot come to the boil, it takes the same times as when I don't watch.  This following previously quoted  paragraph was the reason I mentioned time.  I wouldn't ask a philosopher about time, if I was in the library I'd go to a different isle.

One aspect of Philosophy is that spiritual things cannot be proven. The only problem I have is that time is a concept which is not real because when you are dead, time would technically not exist. I believe in it still, everything takes time.

[Asmodean]

The truth is there is no reasonable evidence that God exists, because reasonable evidence is only considered something you can see or touch

There is evidence to support the existence of air, gravity, subatomic particles, light outside the visible spectre (read: energy waves), black holes, sound and so on.

You can't see or touch any of those.

Reasonable evidence is the evidence which corroborates the existence of something. Just seeing or touching is not reasonable evidence in itself. You can very well see and touch someone accused of commiting murder. Does that prove that the accused is guilty?

in which case I don't think God is small enough to see, it's almost like saying look at your eye, without a mirror. or touch your finger with the same finger.

Just out of curiosity, what is your level of education?

[bicycle]

Reasonable evidence is the evidence which corroborates the existence of something. Just seeing or touching is not reasonable evidence in itself. You can very well see and touch someone accused of commiting murder. Does that prove that the accused is guilty?

Fair enough, I understand now what reasonable evidence constitutes as. In this case, no one on here should believe there is intelligent life on other planets because no one has ever found evidence which corroborates the existence of it. However, life is created, which means there is a creator.

Just out of curiosity, what is your level of education?

You are curious, my level of education is higher than most, I am also curious but I don't want to change the subject.

[Asmodean]

Fair enough, I understand now what reasonable evidence constitutes as. In this case, no one on here should believe there is intelligent life on other planets because no one has ever found evidence which corroborates the existence of it. However, life is created, which means there is a creator.

Indirect evidence of life on other planets is the presense of it on this one. Do I believe aliens have come to Earth in their flying saucers all X-Files style..? No. Do I believe there may be life on planets other than this one..? Possibly. Yes, some people would go as far as to say they do believe such life exists. Me... I'm agnostic when it comes to that subject.

You are curious, my level of education is higher than most, I am also curious but I don't want to change the subject.

I'm sorry, but from what I read so far, I would like to call bullshit on this one. The reason for question was for future reference - how much simplifications to use in my explanations and what linguistic level.

[Gawen]

Fair enough, I understand now what reasonable evidence constitutes as. In this case, no one on here should believe there is intelligent life on other planets because no one has ever found evidence which corroborates the existence of it.

I don't think anyone here says such a thing.

...my level of education is higher than most...

However, life is created, which means there is a creator.

Ok then...

[Whitney]

However, life is created, which means there is a creator.

my level of education is higher than most

Then it shouldn't take you long to figure out why the sentence I quoted above contains a huge logical fallacy.

[DeterminedJuliet]

However, life is created, which means there is a creator.

my level of education is higher than most

Then it shouldn't take you long to figure out why the sentence I quoted above contains a huge logical fallacy.

However, life is created exists, which means there is a creator it came to exist.

Fixed.

[bicycle]

what's the difference between coming to exist and creating?

edit: Creating as in creating yourself, such as the universe.

[Whitney]

what's the difference between coming to exist and creating?

creating requires a creator being; developing naturally doesn't.

[bicycle]

Asmodeon, Obviously life exists on other planets, but intelligent life has never been proven. Scientists haven't gotten far enough in the universe yet to find another Earth. Doesn't mean the universe isn't big enough to have another one, which is why I believe there is. You say we are the proof that intelligent life exists on other planets, but how could that life exist without the same qualities of our planet? Human beings would not be sufficient evidence that there is another planet capable of having life like ours.

For future reference I'm in college which is why I have been busy lately but I think I can handle your linguistics.

[The Magic Pudding]

what's the difference between coming to exist and creating?

creating requires a creator being; developing naturally doesn't.

I can see it's probably better not to use create in an argument such as this, but it doesn't necessarily suggest a sentient creator to me.
The meteorite struck the poor chicken, creating a mess all over the place.
It is possible god tossed that rock, but not necessary.

[Sweetdeath]

Poor chicken!  What did he ever do to sky daddy? D:

[The Magic Pudding]

Poor chicken!  What did he ever do to sky daddy? D:

Why would some angry god whack a chicken?
You said he so I suppose he preferred the company of other hes.
If it was a non gender specific bird I was going to say she had a shrine for Vishnu. 
I'm assuming Vishnu supports a vegetarian lifestyle, there seems to be a lot of Vishnu vegetarian restaurants.

[Whitney]

I can see it's probably better not to use create in an argument such as this, but it doesn't necessarily suggest a sentient creator to me.

this is why I think creation/creator is a bad use of words when exploring the origins of everything:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/creator

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/creation

so while the word create doesn't necessarily have direct connections to sentient involvement declivities of that word do have direct connections to a creative being...and then we get nonsense like "anything that came to exist was created so there must be a creator and we call him god"  It is confusion due to inappropriate word choice at best and purposeful misdirection at worst.

[iSok]

Would intelligent life on other planets also think of good and wrong?
I wonder whether they would be religious.

Would a being that is advanced in analytical reasoning destroy itself?
I'm of the opinion that if we get more intelligent as we are now, we will destroy ourselves.