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Started by fester30, May 02, 2011, 04:13:23 AM

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AnimatedDirt

QuoteWould you be for removing Christmas and Easter as national holidays and replacing with something more secular?
I don't care whether Christmas is or isn't a federal holiday.  In fact, I would welcome removing it as a holiday and tradition all-together.  I'd certainly save a few bucks!  It is misplaced anyway as "the Reason for the Season"
QuoteI wonder, Animated Dirt... were you as supportive of Bush and his "faith initiatives" as you are critical of Obama and his attempts to make Muslims feel like they aren't under attack in America?
Not at all...I think I already mentioned I don't think a person in Office should support any religion.  

Recussant:  It's my opinion and it is based on what I see, hear, read and a bit of some gut feeling (never proven 100% correct).  I'm apologize for not measuring up to your liking.

I'm simply not getting this quoting system...

Melmoth

Goody-gum-drops, Bin Laden is dead.

Incidentally, AD, I'm not sure if burying someone according to their own religious customs could really be called unsecular, so long as you're doing it on an individual basis and not standardising it for whole groups of people. It's when you start saying things like "schools should be allowed to force morning prayer on all of their kids, regardless of background" that you're crossing the line.

Though I do think it was a slightly odd gesture, considering he was the most hated man in the Western world, so it wouldn't surprise me if there's something we're not being told. To speculate about what that could be, though, would be unreliable, unconfirmable, and probably a step down the road to conspirasy theory-ville.
"That life has no meaning is a reason to live - moreover, the only one." - Emil Cioran.

Recusant

Quote from: AnimatedDirt on May 04, 2011, 06:35:19 PM
Recussant:  It's my opinion and it is based on what I see, hear, read and a bit of some gut feeling (never proven 100% correct).  I'm apologize for not measuring up to your liking.

I'm simply not getting this quoting system...

If what you're reading is the bloviations of such myopic bile-spewing assholes as Debbie Schlussel, you need to broaden your horizons.

I'd be happy to try to help with whatever problems you have with the quote function on this new forum software, by the way.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Recusant on May 05, 2011, 02:16:36 AM
If what you're reading is the bloviations of such myopic bile-spewing assholes as Debbie Schlussel, you need to broaden your horizons.
I don't read only certain articles, I read what comes up on searches on the subject.  Yahoo, MSN, Drudge, and Google News and the good 'ole L.A. Times hard copies, among others.  Maybe you can point me to better sources.  I'm not sure I've ever read any other piece by Debbie S.
Quote from: RecusantI'd be happy to try to help with whatever problems you have with the quote function on this new forum software, by the way.
It's just a hair more complicated...I don't get it, but I'll get it eventually.  :)  Thx.

AnimatedDirt

BTW...a new website has popped up providing a shred of evidence that the "gutsycall" is more a campaign move than a move to make wrongs right.

I don't encourage you to go to it, but gutsycalldotcom is now a 2012 campaign site for the "caller".

fester30

Foreign accent syndrome is where someone talks with a foreign accent unwillingly due to some sort of traumatic brain injury. Brits talk with a foreign accent, and more than half are non-religious. George Soros is an atheist, therefore the Brits pulled the strings that caused Soros to tell Obama to pretend to kill Osama and claim they have pictures they won't show us. Is the USA run by brain damage? I post, you decide.

Will37

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Quote from: AnimatedDirt on May 03, 2011, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: Recusant on May 03, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
Wow, are you serious?  You're implying that President Obama is a Muslim?  Get a grip, man.
I'm not implying the guy in the Oval Office is Muslim, I'm implying his Muslim roots are more intact than we think or even he portrays them to be.  For a devout Christian, it seems he is more interested in promoting the Muslim faith than his own faith.  (Not that he should promote either as President)  As a small tid-bit of information that is not necessarily the whole basis:
QuoteBy comparison, the White House has released statements recognizing the observance of major Muslim holidays and released statements in 2010 on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.
Quote from What? No Easter Greeting?

I don't think any President should be promoting ANY religion.  Why are we allowing him to promote the Muslim religion...and if he is such a "devout" Christian, why not promote Christianity as it runs opposite to the Muslim religion in many regards.  It's just a bunch of political games...one day he distances himself from anything seemingly Muslim and the next he's promoting the Muslim lifestyle in America.

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This and other small things he does/has done (bowing to Saudi King).  I simply don't trust the guy.  I don't put any trust politicians...and even less in this Hussein character.

Again, I realized the burial at sea isn't necessarily a Muslim tradition, but his body was given all the Muslim rights before dropped into the ocean.  Why?  Why was this murder given this right, is my question?

It's just another point that shows his true belief(s).


You're fucking with me.  I really hope you are just trying to fuck with people.


Anyway.  Martin Luther King Jr. wasn't Christ almighty.  He was a brave man but his ideas and assertions are hardly sacrosant.  I'm glad Osama Bin Laden is dead.  Hopefully al-Zawahiri will be following soon enough.
'Out of a great number of suppositions, shrewd in their own way, one in particular emerged at last (one feels strange even mentioning it): whether Chichikov were not Napoleon in disguise'
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DeterminedJuliet

I am really confused by the "giving the body respect" business. What the hell were they supposed to do with it? String him up in Time's Square? Throw him in a dumpster? I get that a lot of people hated him, but a body is a body, and what you do with it is more of a reflection of you than of it. There are a lot of really horrible people on death row, but I'm still pretty sure that they get a burial after they are executed. It's called being civilized.
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

Whitney

Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on May 08, 2011, 05:40:24 PM
I am really confused by the "giving the body respect" business. What the hell were they supposed to do with it? String him up in Time's Square? Throw him in a dumpster? I get that a lot of people hated him, but a body is a body, and what you do with it is more of a reflection of you than of it. There are a lot of really horrible people on death row, but I'm still pretty sure that they get a burial after they are executed. It's called being civilized.

I don't understand it either...

Will37

Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on May 08, 2011, 05:40:24 PM
I get that a lot of people hated him, but a body is a body, and what you do with it is more of a reflection of you than of it. There are a lot of really horrible people on death row, but I'm still pretty sure that they get a burial after they are executed. It's called being civilized.

Exactly
'Out of a great number of suppositions, shrewd in their own way, one in particular emerged at last (one feels strange even mentioning it): whether Chichikov were not Napoleon in disguise'
Nikolai Gogol--> Dead Souls

'Коба, зачем тебе нужна моя смерть?'
Николай Иванович Бухарин-->Letter to Stalin

'Death is not an event in life: we do not live to exp

Tank

US diver on maverick mission to find Bin Laden's body

QuoteA US salvage diver says he will scour the bottom of the north Arabian Sea to hunt for the body of Osama Bin Laden.

Bill Warren says that he wants to establish once and for all whether the al-Qaeda leader was killed by US forces in May, and then buried out at sea.

Mr Warren, 59, says his search will begin in about four weeks time, and will cost around $400,000 (£245,000).

He admits it will be like looking for a needle in a haystack, but maintains it is not an impossible mission...

The conspiracy theorists will, of course, consider this a cover up!
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Abletony

Didn't Bin Laden die a few years back? That's what I heard. Not sure if it's true though.

Evilbeagle

Well he better move fast. There are a load of hungry fish in the sea.
England expects every man to heed the old lie: "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"

Tank

Quote from: Evilbeagle on July 27, 2011, 08:44:50 PM
Well he better move fast. There are a load of hungry fish in the sea.
There is a chap in the USA who is going to try to find his body to prove he is dead and not just tucked into a little cell in the corner of Guantanamo Bay.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

fester30

Quote from: Abletony on July 25, 2011, 01:21:53 PM
Didn't Bin Laden die a few years back? That's what I heard. Not sure if it's true though.

This is a conspiracy theory.  Some opponents of President Bush and the "war on terror" claimed that Bin Laden had been dead since 2001, or 2003, or 2007... basically that he's been dead for a long time, and the Bush administration chose to cover that up so that they could justify continuing to fight the wars.  This is the same Bush administration that paraded their trophy, Saddam Hussein, all over television every chance they got.  I just find that hard to believe.  They didn't need a reason to stay in Iraq, other than stability of Iraq.  I think they would have likely used the same excuse in Afghanistan if they wanted to stay there.