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Metal is Super Religious

Started by Jumala, March 06, 2011, 10:38:14 PM

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Jumala

At least in its imagery and metaphors. The Book of Revelation calls on a lot of Semitic and Indo-European myths, wherein a Storm god fights a flying Chaos beast and throws it down into the ocean. Between Judeo-Christian and it's distant relatives in Babylon, Assyria, etc. most of hte imagery of metal is pretty strongly derived from a religious background and a religious zeitgeist that IS fundamentally incompatible with people who use microwave ovens and refine amphetamines in their garage.

However, it's kind of entertaining fiction and it's sometimes got more with an orientation towards the world than any kind of belief in sorcery or arbitrary, meddling demiurges and holographic light gods.

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: "Jumala"most of hte imagery of metal is pretty strongly derived from a religious background and a religious zeitgeist that IS fundamentally incompatible with people who use microwave ovens and refine amphetamines in their garage.

Are you sure?  When I put a spoon in the microwave I can plainly see the spirit of the microwave is displeased, it will cast bolts of lightning at the interloper spoon.

Jumala


Cecilie

What kind of metal are we talking about here?
The world's what you create.

Jumala

Quote from: "Cecilie"What kind of metal are we talking about here?
Most power and black metal, a decent portion of death metal; all sorts of quasi-metal stuff like industrial; a lot of 'heavy metal' stuff like Judas Priest and Led Zeppelin.

Cecilie

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Quote from: "Cecilie"What kind of metal are we talking about here?
Most power and black metal, a decent portion of death metal; all sorts of quasi-metal stuff like industrial; a lot of 'heavy metal' stuff like Judas Priest and Led Zeppelin.
I only have one thing to say: Zeppelin is not metal thankyouverymuch.
The world's what you create.

Jumala

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Quote from: "Jumala"
Quote from: "Cecilie"What kind of metal are we talking about here?
Most power and black metal, a decent portion of death metal; all sorts of quasi-metal stuff like industrial; a lot of 'heavy metal' stuff like Judas Priest and Led Zeppelin.
I only have one thing to say: Zeppelin is not metal thankyouverymuch.
Eh, it was called that before there was much of a modern 'metal' genre; but I will say that they are definitely something different than Entombed.

Cecilie

I gotta say that I didn't understand much of your post about Metal music being super religious. I suppose you can't simplify it for us (me) non native English speakers?
The world's what you create.

Jumala

Quote from: "Cecilie"I gotta say that I didn't understand much of your post about Metal music being super religious. I suppose you can't simplify it for us (me) non native English speakers?
A lot of the imagery and allegory used in metal music and art derives from Ancient Near Eastern mythology and Apocalyptic literature.

Cecilie

Quote from: "Jumala"
Quote from: "Cecilie"I gotta say that I didn't understand much of your post about Metal music being super religious. I suppose you can't simplify it for us (me) non native English speakers?
A lot of the imagery and allegory used in metal music and art derives from Ancient Near Eastern mythology and Apocalyptic literature.
Examples?
The world's what you create.

Asmodean

In my experience, most metal bands only incorporate religion into their music if their songwriters are religious or otherwise have some connection to religion, like being opposed to it for instance.

The lyrics of the Industrial Metal band "Deathstars", for instance, sometines incorporate religion in a negative way. For other bands, like In Flames, I struggle to find examples of religion really being there at all. Yet others still use pagan mythology freely enough without being even remotely pagan. Sounds cool, y'know...

My band has up until this day not made a single song where religious symbols are used in any way, shape or form and any exception is purely coinsidential and unintended. But then... You can read many things into some lyrics and melodies, so who knows, maybe someone would want to call our songs religious as well. They are not, but if it toots a fanhorn...  :D
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history_geek

I have to say that there are a lot of metal bands that usually use ancient mythology, and black/death metal, 'nuff said, but I can't say that metal music is super religios or even that religious (sure after listening to Korpiklaani, I sometimes feel it might not be so bad to go pagan :headbang:
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"Any sufficiently advanced alien is indistinguishable from a god."
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Cecilie

Quote from: "history_geek"the Four Horsemen
:blush:

[youtube:1rt4tpxy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwypN3YI4m0[/youtube:1rt4tpxy]

Also, original version. Which one is better?

[youtube:1rt4tpxy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-AcYn5gh9Y[/youtube:1rt4tpxy]

Sure, Hetfield's voice is better, but Mechanix is faster.

I like an excuse for posting videos of Metal music. At least this time is wasn't completely offtopic, right? Right?
The world's what you create.

Ulver

Metal contains religious imagery simply because god created a rock so heavy even he couldn't lift it.


Cecilie

Motörhead is not impressed with this thread.
The world's what you create.