Passion of the Christ

[LegendarySandwich]

Millions love Harry Potter, and most don't actually believe there's a Hogwarts magic school or anything.

Most!?  

[fester30]

That's what I said, most.  There are Harry Potter nuts out there that actually believe there's a magical hidden place in England where magicians go to school and shop and such.  I thought Trekkies were bad, but at least at a Trek convention, the people there believe the stuff in the shows and movies are in our FUTURE, not that they've already happened.

[defendor]

This movie doesn't qualify as torture porn.  There is a movie subtly titled "Antichrist" which is directed by a frenchman and stars Willem Dafoe, now that is exploitative torture porn.

Btw Animated Dirt, I'm not tryin to call you out but I enjoy theological debates ha

the only sin that cannot be forgiven is 'blaspheming the Holy Spirit'

[ForTheLoveOfAll]

The Passion Of The Christ is just a very successful snuff film.

[karadan]

Would you agree that this movie features a spellbinding performance from Jim Caviezel?

I guess so. It must be difficult to act like you're in constant blinding agony for the duration of a three month shoot.

It was gorier than most (if not all) horror films i've ever seen. In itself, i have no problem with that although i wouldn't usually choose to watch anything like it. Mel Gibson is infatuated with gore anyway, so, I saw that coming a mile off.

My reservations with the film was the certificate it got and the fact that parents (and teachers) willingly took their six-year-old children to see it. The thought that kids were being forced to see gore porn just because it was about jebus royally pissed me off.

[The Magic Pudding]

A lot of people got nailed up without the delusion they were 33.33333% god.
I think mere people have suffered worse fates, often at the hands of people wearing a cross.
This is 2011, to impress me a deity has to do better than a single day of pain.

[karadan]

A lot of people got nailed up without the delusion they were 33.33333% god.
I think mere people have suffered worse fates, often at the hands of people wearing a cross.
This is 2011, to impress me a deity has to do better than a single day of pain.

Indeed. Dying for someone is admirable but creating the cure for cancer garners more merit, in my book.

[The Magic Pudding]

A lot of people got nailed up without the delusion they were 33.33333% god.
I think mere people have suffered worse fates, often at the hands of people wearing a cross.
This is 2011, to impress me a deity has to do better than a single day of pain.

Indeed. Dying for someone is admirable but creating the cure for cancer garners more merit, in my book.

If god is god it created cancer and cancer sufferers who would say a day on a cross is an easy way out.

[ForTheLoveOfAll]

A lot of people got nailed up without the delusion they were 33.33333% god.
I think mere people have suffered worse fates, often at the hands of people wearing a cross.
This is 2011, to impress me a deity has to do better than a single day of pain.

Indeed. Dying for someone is admirable but creating the cure for cancer garners more merit, in my book.

If god is god it created cancer and cancer sufferers who would say a day on a cross is an easy way out.

That's something else I don't understand about the crucifixtion story.

Two days in Hell, and one day, or, more accurately, around six hours on the cross. (Minus the previous tortures.)

So that's three days of suffering as compared with an eternity in a burning fire or as opposed to people today who are suffering from diseases? Noble that such a man would be willing to let himself be tortured for the sake of another, but there are many more undergoing MUCH more pain.

[AnimatedDirt]

So that's three days of suffering as compared with an eternity in a burning fire or as opposed to people today who are suffering from diseases? Noble that such a man would be willing to let himself be tortured for the sake of another, but there are many more undergoing MUCH more pain.

Which is a great argument for those Christians that believe that Hell is a place of perpetual suffering.  If God suffered the price of sin for all, then one can rightly assume the price of sin is exactly what the Bible says it is.  The wages of sin is death.  The "eternal" part is not in the suffering, but in the finality of the punishment.  Eternal fire is not a fire that lasts forever.  It is a fire that, while there is anything to consume, it will burn.  (cf. Jude 1:7)

[father nicetouch]

The thing I do not understand about christ's death is that they say he died for our sins. Doesnt' that mean that now I do not have to worry about sinning or not? I mean if he paid for my sins I should be able to sin without worry, right? Do you all get what i'm trying to say? So I can now go out and sin my little ass off and say, "It's all right everyone! Jesus payed for that!"  

[AnimatedDirt]

The thing I do not understand about christ's death is that they say he died for our sins. Doesnt' that mean that now I do not have to worry about sinning or not? I mean if he paid for my sins I should be able to sin without worry, right? Do you all get what i'm trying to say? So I can now go out and sin my little ass off and say, "It's all right everyone! Jesus payed for that!"  

Sin is a struggle...no doubt.

"A Christian is always a sinner, always a penitent, always right with God."

Understand this, practice it, you will be saved.
No longer will you sin simply to say, "It's all right everyone! Jesus payed for that!"

[father nicetouch]

The thing I do not understand about christ's death is that they say he died for our sins. Doesnt' that mean that now I do not have to worry about sinning or not? I mean if he paid for my sins I should be able to sin without worry, right? Do you all get what i'm trying to say? So I can now go out and sin my little ass off and say, "It's all right everyone! Jesus payed for that!"   :drool

[AnimatedDirt]

Christians just use Jesus as a way to feel better after you sin.  

I'm glad you have this 'truth' to keep you warm.

[father nicetouch]

Christians just use Jesus as a way to feel better after you sin.  :verysad: