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Started by jonagik, November 24, 2010, 10:30:38 AM

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jonagik

I woke up one day recently and felt a deep desire for some sort of spiritual belief system. Up until that point I hadn't really thought about it, I guess I just assumed that when you die nothing happens.

I tried looking for answers but almost immediately hit a roadblock: how can you possibly know which religion is correct (or even if any religion is correct)? I did a quick search for an unbiased view on this matter (from someone who had approached the issue from a similar direction to me, rather than from someone who had blindly followed what society or their family believed in) but couldn't find what I was looking for.

I decided to start a forum myself where believers from all religions and spiritual belief systems could share their view point. I would appreciate it if anyone who believes strongly in a particular viewpoint would weigh in on discussions with their point of view. And, of course, anyone who wants can view discussions.

Thanks for your help.

Asmodean

...And you decided to advertise your forum here in order to what..? Steal some members..?  :raised:
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: "Asmodean"...And you decided to advertise your forum here in order to what..? Steal some members..?  :raised:

No don't let him steal you, though I suppose we could get this guy in.


Asmodean

I'm heavy, thorny and I tend to kick and bite. Not the ideal candidate for theft  :pop:
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Whitney

url removed from OP and warning issued.

jonagik

I'm sorry, you seem to have gotten the wrong end of the stick. I do not wish to steal members from the forum, quite the opposite. I would simply appreciate the input from people who have thought about religion a little more than me and who have concluded that atheism is the answer. Both forums can exist in parallel without affecting each other. In fact, the fulfill completely different objectives.

Given this, I would appreciate it if you added the URL to the original post, however I understand if you feel it is inappropriate.

notself

jonagik,

Why ask atheists which religion is best?  All religion is a pile of woo that depends on followers who are afraid of death and need the comfort of an afterlife.  

If you are having touble with the thought that your death will be the end of you, then there are many religious forums where you can ask your question.  Good luck in your search.

Gawen

Honestly jonagik...a google search can take us to thousands of forums. I reckon many members here have been to quite a few. But....

What you're telling us is that you have a desire to be spiritual and are willing to listen to other people's testimonies...point's of view...to find what spiritualism you can latch onto? And these will/may be unbiased sources?

Good luck on your search.
The essence of the mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks. Faith is the surrender of our mind; of reason and our skepticism to put all our trust or faith in someone or something that has no good evidence of itself. That is a sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith is not.
"When you fall, I will be there" - Floor

Matt

I think you should make up your own.  That way you don't have to follow anything you don't agree with.

_7654_

Quote from: "jonagik"I'm sorry, you seem to have gotten the wrong end of the stick. I do not wish to steal members from the forum, quite the opposite. I would simply appreciate the input from people who have thought about religion a little more than me and who have concluded that atheism is the answer. Both forums can exist in parallel without affecting each other. In fact, the fulfill completely different objectives.

Given this, I would appreciate it if you added the URL to the original post, however I understand if you feel it is inappropriate.

So hi,
First of all, nearly all religions available today are based on one central figure, that is called god or something similar. And nearly everything known at the time of the inception of that religion is attributed to that central figure. Anything and everything that was out of human control, understanding or attainability was attributed to that central figure. There are a few exceptions to this structure, in that, some religions to not attain this central figure, rather a set of guidelines to represent it, slight difference in structure, even slighter difference in outcome.
So when you feel the urge to seek a religion, you first need to find out why do you fell this urge? and exactly what would you expect from religion to provide in order to relieve that urge. Religions, apart from what i mentioned before, have other quantities associated with them, so if and when you find one religion that can or would relieve the urge you specifically had, you need to be aware of a few less obvious caveats that come with that religion.

Religions are monolithic units, they come as a whole package, with exclusivity contracts attached to them.

There is a penalty for early withdrawal, in many cases quite a large one, and the earliest available withdrawal date in most cases is the same date as your own expiry... not a very generous option.

There is, in most cases, an obligation regarding your opinions about all other religions and people following them, and those obligations necessitates that you hold a deeply negative opinion about them and to treat them accordingly.

And since religions in most cases are a monolithic unit, there are also numerous other obligations that you will have to pick up and work with, in spite of the fact that you only needed a solution for one or a few small and simple issues that you felt you had.

In short, there is nothing that religion can offer you in a very convoluted and cumbersome way that you cant achieve in a simple concise and satisfying manner.

MagicMarker

"Religion" is one of those words that don't mean very much.  Everyone has a favorite definition; but since your neighbor has a different definition, it's best to find a different word.   Kinda like "atheist," or "Christian."

Oh... if anyone decides to use a different word, please don't pick "spiritual" or I swear I'll go ballistic.

Thumpalumpacus

I kinda like "spiritual", if only for the extreme reactions it provokes.
Illegitimi non carborundum.

Gawen

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I kinda like "spiritual", if only for the extreme reactions it provokes.
You are bad....soooo bad...*chucklin*
The essence of the mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks. Faith is the surrender of our mind; of reason and our skepticism to put all our trust or faith in someone or something that has no good evidence of itself. That is a sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith is not.
"When you fall, I will be there" - Floor

Thumpalumpacus

Illegitimi non carborundum.

Cite134

Quote from: "'Matt'"I think you should make up your own.  That way you don't have to follow anything you don't agree with.

Agreed. I actually have to develop my own religion for my Anthro class.  :verysad:
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan.