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Started by Prea, July 09, 2010, 03:04:54 AM

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Asmodean

Quote from: "Heretical Rants"
Quote from: "GAYtheist"The only thing existing outside the universe, is nothingness. Energy does not exist outside of the confines of the universe.
Whoaoaaa, that´s a pretty big claim right there, if you´re defining "universe" the way I think you are.

If by universe you mean "everything, absolutely everything" then sure... but... then what´s the point of saying that nothing exists outside of everything?
What's a "nothing" made of, mewonder...  :hmm:
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

TheJackel

Quote from: "Heretical Rants"
Quote from: "Prea"I believe the totality of all the energy in the cosmos somehow forms one continuous living organism that we are all apart of. I don't know how and I can't explain it

From Wikipedia >.<

Since there is no unequivocal definition of life, the current understanding is descriptive, where life is a characteristic of organisms that exhibit all or most of the following phenomena:

   1. Homeostasis: Regulation of the internal environment to maintain a constant state; for example, electrolyte concentration or sweating to reduce temperature.
   2. Organization: Being structurally composed of one or more cells, which are the basic units of life.
   3. Metabolism: Transformation of energy by converting chemicals and energy into cellular components (anabolism) and decomposing organic matter (catabolism). Living things require energy to maintain internal organization (homeostasis) and to produce the other phenomena associated with life.
   4. Growth: Maintenance of a higher rate of anabolism than catabolism. A growing organism increases in size in all of its parts, rather than simply accumulating matter.
   5. Adaptation: The ability to change over a period of time in response to the environment. This ability is fundamental to the process of evolution and is determined by the organism's heredity as well as the composition of metabolized substances, and external factors present.
   6. Response to stimuli: A response can take many forms, from the contraction of a unicellular organism to external chemicals, to complex reactions involving all the senses of multicellular organisms. A response is often expressed by motion, for example, the leaves of a plant turning toward the sun (phototropism) and by chemotaxis.
   7. Reproduction: The ability to produce new individual organisms, either asexually from a single parent organism, or sexually from two parent organisms.


I don't see how "all of the energy in the cosmos" fits any of these criteria.

They aren't made of nothing, and everyone of those require energy as we know it to be what they are, do what they do, or even exist. They entirely fit the criteria ;)

TheJackel

Quote from: "Asmodean"
Quote from: "Heretical Rants"
Quote from: "GAYtheist"The only thing existing outside the universe, is nothingness. Energy does not exist outside of the confines of the universe.
Whoaoaaa, that´s a pretty big claim right there, if you´re defining "universe" the way I think you are.

If by universe you mean "everything, absolutely everything" then sure... but... then what´s the point of saying that nothing exists outside of everything?
What's a "nothing" made of, mewonder...  :hmm:

Nothing states that itself is nothing and doesn't exist since it's nothing at all. To be something would be to exist. If something exists it clearly isn't nothing. So we can conclude that nothing is only a descriptive word and can not literally ever be something in itself.

Asmodean

Quote from: "TheJackel"Nothing states that itself is nothing and doesn't exist since it's nothing at all. To be something would be to exist. If something exists it clearly isn't nothing. So we can conclude that nothing is only a descriptive word and can not literally ever be something in itself.
Yup. Nothing is nothing but a construct.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.