Atheism is Abdication

[Edward the Theist]

Here's a question for you - if you could kill off every atheist in the world and you are assured that no more atheists would ever exist, you wouldn't get into trouble, and you wouldn't kill or harm anyone but atheists with the act, would you do it?  Also, the act wouldn't take any effort for you to accomplish (you seem to be all talk and no action so we wouldn't want to tax you), all you'd have to do is come to a decision and state it aloud.  The atheists wouldn't leave any stinky bodies lying around to cause disease and their friends and family members wouldn't remember that they had ever existed.  And for the sake of the question we'll pretend that all babies are conceived believing in Jesus so you wouldn't kill any babies.   So, would you do it?

Finally, a question worth answering: No.

Where would the glory be in that? Better to make a Paul out of a Saul, if you know your book of Acts. Besides, if that's how God wanted me to do it, he would have given me a different skill set.

[Edward the Theist]

but some of us know right from wrong without needing some book or religion to tell us it is so.

Self-righteousness is the key to any successful atheistic life. But I know you're FOS.

 

If you're only behaving yourself because you fear punishment from God or believe you have to be like Christ and that's the only thing holding you back from being a liar, cheat, and thief, well than yeah, you are an atrocious person.

So are you. But your narcissism blinds you. Isn't that the real reason you're an atheist: to stay blind? Admit it. You're not fooling me.

 

Goodness in a person should not be contingent on belief in God, and if it is, than that person was never good to begin with.

Well, that's the first thing to being a Christian, isn't it? To admit you're not a good person.

You know, it's funny, I tried to sit on the fence but it's impossible. I don't want to be a Christian, because I don't want to be associated with the con artists, the molesters, the hypocrites and the evildoers. And yet, I love Jesus Christ and God. I am a Christian whether I want to be or not.

[Thumpalumpacus]

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[Thumpalumpacus]

Self-righteousness is the key to any successful atheistic life. But I know you're FOS.

What?  Is this Edward the Theist being rude?  Are you cursing?

So are you. But your narcissism blinds you. Isn't that the real reason you're an atheist: to stay blind? Admit it. You're not fooling me.

Edward the Theist sees all.  ALL.

Well, that's the first thing to being a Christian, isn't it? To admit you're not a good person.

The first step is not the journey. Edward.  You can still, and apparently have, gone awry.

You know, it's funny, I tried to sit on the fence but it's impossible. I don't want to be a Christian, because I don't want to be associated with the con artists, the molesters, the hypocrites and the evildoers. And yet, I love Jesus Christ and God. I am a Christian whether I want to be or not.

Fine, quit your goddamned preaching and keep it to yourself.  If you're the best God can scrape up, I'd say he's scraping bottom.

[philosoraptor]

Well, you may be right on at least one count, EtT.  I am bit of a narcissist.  Know why?  Because I'm fucking awesome.  Because I'm going to continue to do good things and be a good person, REGARDLESS of what some yahoo on the internet thinks of me.  So yeah, I will go ahead and toot my own horn, because I already know I'm a better person than you.  By your own admission you don't strive to be a kind, honest, upstanding individual, even though you claim your goal is to be like Christ, and these are things I try to do anyway, in spite of being an atheist.  Sometimes I fuck up, but instead of wasting my time praying for forgiveness, I try to fix those mistakes.  All in all, I feel pretty good about this.  But thank you for reminding me that I am in fact superior to some people out there, namely you in this particular instance.  Everyone loves a good ego boost every now and then.

[Heretical Rants]

I hate atheism. Yes. I don't hate atheists; actually I prefer atheists to the religious people I know. But I hate atheism with a rather extreme passion. Thank God it's all imaginary. Perhaps I'll wake up one day and it will all be gone.

Bias spotted, in this thread.

Ehhh, so what, everyone is biased in some way or another.

I´ve spotted several other biases of other people, in this thread.

[Edward the Theist]

Well, you may be right on at least one count, EtT.  I am bit of a narcissist.  Know why?  Because I'm fucking awesome.  Because I'm going to continue to do good things and be a good person, REGARDLESS of what some yahoo on the internet thinks of me.  So yeah, I will go ahead and toot my own horn, because I already know I'm a better person than you. By your own admission you don't strive to be a kind, honest, upstanding individual, even though you claim your goal is to be like Christ, and these are things I try to do anyway, in spite of being an atheist.  Sometimes I fuck up, but instead of wasting my time praying for forgiveness, I try to fix those mistakes.  All in all, I feel pretty good about this.  But thank you for reminding me that I am in fact superior to some people out there, namely you in this particular instance.  Everyone loves a good ego boost every now and then.

Ladies and gentleman! May I present: The Atheist!  

Seriously, how is someone who thinks the way you do going to make the world a better place? Everyone already walks around thinking they're an emporer. You think you're superior because I'm able to say I'm not a good person? Who told you you were good? You?

[Heretical Rants]

Who told you you were good? You?

I think most people are narcissists, deep down. The rest are emo.

Also, please try to keep generalizations to a minimum. A sample size of 1 * philosoraptor is not sufficent.

[philosoraptor]

Seriously, how is someone who thinks the way you do going to make the world a better place? Everyone already walks around thinking they're an emporer. You think you're superior because I'm able to say I'm not a good person? Who told you you were good? You?

I certainly don't owe you any explanations.  I KNOW I make the world a better place.  And sometimes, all that means is giving a stranger a ride, buying a homeless guy a cup of coffee, donating blood, or sponsoring a child in need.  I don't need outside validation, but I do get it from people who acknowledge the good things I do.  And I will continue to do those things, even if no one acknowledges them.  I like helping people, because I believe each other is all we have in the absence of a higher power.

And yes, I do feel superior to you.  Because you would judge all atheists by my actions alone, in addition to making false claims that you can't back up about everything from atheism to existentialism to Hitler and beyond.  I still believe there are good, honest and open-minded Christians out there, despite your actions.  So far you've done nothing but make false accusations and deliberately bait people, and in my book, that makes you a troll.

Thanks for playing, but you lose.  

[Edward the Theist]

Because you would judge all atheists by my actions alone,

Wait a minute. You've been going on at some length about how superior you are. You even illustrated with some cliche token example of the good works you believe you should do, might do, just kind of put your arm around for the photo op and do, what have you.

So, if you're superior to me, and you're a good person and a blessing to the world, how have I been bad by judging atheists by your actions?

Not quite checkmate yet, is it?

[pinkocommie]

This is pointless and silly.  

[philosoraptor]

EtT, you've obviously missed the point.  Either I'm a good example of an atheist, or I'm not, but you can't have it both ways.  But I digress.  I'm tired of you, given you're about as entertaining as a brick wall.  Consider yourself foed.  

[pinkocommie]

EtT, you've obviously missed the point.  Either I'm a good example of an atheist, or I'm not, but you can't have it both ways.  But I digress.  I'm tired of you, given you're about as entertaining as a brick wall.  Consider yourself foed.  

I forgot about that feature!  Good idea, man.

[philosoraptor]

I don't use the foe feature often, but when I do, it's sweet.

[i_am_i]

So, if you're superior to me, and you're a good person and a blessing to the world, how have I been bad by judging atheists by your actions?

Take another drink, kid.