Asperger's and Autism

[Squid]

I do think a lot of it has to do with needing someone/something to blame - it's a natural reaction especially for parents.  And blaming evil, faceless corporations or the government is easy to do.  However, those who push bad information on the public refuse to see it can have terrible consequences.  Like with the vaccines containing ethylmercury perservatives, some parents side with alternative medicine practices of using chelation therapy (treatment for heavy metal poisoning) which is dangerous for the children - some cases of the treatment on children have been fatal.

Also, the work of Mark Geier (see the paper of his I cited earlier and I also think I spelled his name wrong earlier) has repeatedly been found to be methodologically unsound and purposefully vague in methodology and statistical analysis details.  Interestingly he and his son David hold a 2006 patent for using a chelating agent (Lupron) for autism treatment.  Sounds vaguely familiar to the Wakefield story doesn't it?  Even in the legal arena, Geier's shadiness has appeared -http://www.casewatch.org/civil/geier.shtml.

[faith_no_more]

I too have mild autism and neuro fibromitosis type 1.

What does this mean? it means that i have a speech defect and nervous system.

There are several obvious things about autism:

1:A bit of anti social behavior.
2:Not like being touched(I hate being hugged and prefer not to be touched by anyone unless i say so)
3:concentration add(attention deficiency disorder) I took riddaline as a kid which is speed.When i got off it with all that energy i ended up crying because i no longer had this concentration i had with it.Caffeine can also help what speed did without the detrimental effects on your heart which can kill you.

I have lived my whole life with these problems of anti social behavior and desire to cut off and be alone in comfort doing my own thing.I have been told that its one of the obvious traits of the norm.

I do interact and talk to people(obviously) or else i would go insane,i just have my days of wanting to just go on my own and do my own stuff alone.

[Davin]

I too have mild autism and neuro fibromitosis type 1.

What does this mean? it means that i have a speech defect and nervous system.

There are several obvious things about autism:

1:A bit of anti social behavior.
2:Not like being touched(I hate being hugged and prefer not to be touched by anyone unless i say so)
3:concentration add(attention deficiency disorder) I took riddaline as a kid which is speed.When i got off it with all that energy i ended up crying because i no longer had this concentration i had with it.Caffeine can also help what speed did without the detrimental effects on your heart which can kill you.

I have lived my whole life with these problems of anti social behavior and desire to cut off and be alone in comfort doing my own thing.I have been told that its one of the obvious traits of the norm.

I do interact and talk to people(obviously) or else i would go insane,i just have my days of wanting to just go on my own and do my own stuff alone.

I have asperger's, late diagnosis when I was 20. I enjoy being alone... but I got married and now I am almost never alone. My wife likes to do everything with me and spending all the time she can with me and rarely ever does anything without me. So I have to barter for time alone to program at home. She calls me an emotional amoeba or a robot because I have one facial expression and never really show any real emotions... she can now tell that I'm faking displays of emotion. Too many times now I've imitated the wrong emotional reaction to situations, it goes unnoticed with most other people including a lot of my family.

[faith_no_more]

I was diagnosed as a kid and i don't have trouble with showing emotions,i just have little desire to socialize and sometimes i will have friends and talk a lot on msn or icq and then won't go on for 2 or 3 months.

[AtheistBrit]

It's just that eventually you've got to move beyond that and decide that it's actually okay to be weird, and fly your freak flag high.

+1! Very well said.

[Kylyssa]

It's just that eventually you've got to move beyond that and decide that it's actually okay to be weird, and fly your freak flag high.

But that only works to a certain extent.  If you don't fake normal eye-contact and body language and try to emulate "normal" people you'll have a hard time getting a job or keeping one.  The only time it's really safe to relax is alone or perhaps with trusted friends.

[JillSwift]

But that only works to a certain extent.  If you don't fake normal eye-contact and body language and try to emulate "normal" people you'll have a hard time getting a job or keeping one.  The only time it's really safe to relax is alone or perhaps with trusted friends.

QFT

Additionally, it can be hard to find people to make into trusted friends of that kind - they have to have the capacity to deal with the lack of social queues.

I'm usually stuck with my cats.

[Sophus]

Do you ever hear a high pitch noise indoors sometimes when all else is quiet? I'm not sure what it is - if it's anything at all. Also whenever the television is muted I swear to [strike:2oqkmwnz]God[/strike:2oqkmwnz] the Flying Spaghetti Monster that it's not. I can't really make out what's going on but it does sound like people faintly talking.

[The Magic Pudding]

Do you ever hear a high pitch noise indoors sometimes when all else is quiet?

It could be an electrical appliance.
I have a monitor which whines if the brightness is set low with the monitor controls.
To avoid this I have to use software to lower brightness.

[Tank]

Do you ever hear a high pitch noise indoors sometimes when all else is quiet? I'm not sure what it is - if it's anything at all. Also whenever the television is muted I swear to [strike:24e31o92]God[/strike:24e31o92] the Flying Spaghetti Monster that it's not. I can't really make out what's going on but it does sound like people faintly talking.

Tinnitus? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinnitus

I go through phases of this, usually when I get very stressed.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Do you ever hear a high pitch noise indoors sometimes when all else is quiet? I'm not sure what it is - if it's anything at all. Also whenever the television is muted I swear to [strike:2k1v4m4s]God[/strike:2k1v4m4s] the Flying Spaghetti Monster that it's not. I can't really make out what's going on but it does sound like people faintly talking.

Yes.  I'm told that everyone has tinnitus to a greater or lesser degree.

And no, you're not going crazy about the TV; you have a faulty power attenuator.

[parrotpirate]

http://www.naturalnews.com/011764.html

The above webpage is very informative to anyone who might have kids ever. It's about how mercury in childhood vaccines can cause autism and aspergers. Which is basically just another way of saying "Someone with mercury poisoning." This information is still sort of hidden, and I strongly advise you to read the above material. And please ask your doctor for mercury/thimerosal free vaccines for yourselves and your children, and please tell your brothers and sisters so you can help protect your nieces and nephews. Oh, and your neighbors, coworkers, and friends.

Yours K. Kid

Sorry, but this has been disproved. There are several threads over here that show plenty of evidence:
http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=648258

[parrotpirate]

BTW, Squid you are awesome on a massive scale!
Also: http://www.stopjenny.com/

[Kylyssa]

Yeah, the "vaccines cause autism" crap drives me nuts.  They don't.  There's no scientific evidence that they do and there's plenty of evidence that autism is mostly genetic.  I get about four spam posts per week on vaccines or chelation on my pages about my experience with autism.  I moderate them out of existence.  People have bitched me out for not allowing opposing viewpoints but there's a difference between opposing viewpoints and the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

[Squid]

BTW, Squid you are awesome on a massive scale!
Also: http://www.stopjenny.com/

Why, thank ya...thank ya very much...

Unfortunately Jenny McCarthy isn't the only celeb that's parading this intellect-numbing crap.  People like Jim Carrey have hopped on-board with Jenny's craziness.  However, every so often, you get a surprise like Amanda Peet on Good Morning America a couple of years back saying, "'Please don't listen to me. Don't listen to actors. Go to the experts".  And when people go to the experts outside of the quacks I talked about earlier people will get a nearly unanimous -"no, vaccines do not cause autism".  People want to screw around in the realm of medical science who have no clue what the hell they're talking about - these jackass celebrities use their positions to influence people to not vaccinate their children and because of them, some of these kids will die from entirely preventable diseases....

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html

No matter how you slice it, there is no excuse for a kid dying because mommy and daddy rather listen to a celebrity then their pediatrician.