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Should Atheists actively protest Christmas?

Started by LARA, December 18, 2009, 02:29:25 PM

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LARA

I think that very few of us would actually go out and make a protest against the religious holidays.  But I'm curious to see if this is correct.  So...a poll!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
                                                                                                                    -Winston Smith, protagonist of 1984 by George Orwell

LARA

I think the idea of making a protest against a positive religious celebration is ridiculous.  

I like the artistic aspects of Christmas, from the Yule influenced decorations to the Christian creches.  I also am interested and appreciative of the artistic and symbolic aspects of other cultural and religious celebrations.

I do sometimes think that the accuracy of the date for the celebration of Christ's birth is questionable and perhaps Christians might consider researching the event historically and placing the celebration closer to it's actual annual occurrence.  Also a small thought might be to use decor appropriate to the climate and flora of Israel (a helpful link on this.  http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/20 ... n%20Israel).  But I'm certainly not going to stage a sit-in over these small details.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
                                                                                                                    -Winston Smith, protagonist of 1984 by George Orwell

Mark L Holland

Not only yes but Hell yes, Christians should be challenged on every aspect of their beliefs and falsehoods.  Any and every Christian who stands in public and proclaims, God wants this or God wants that should be immediately challenged and forced to provide proof that God has actually spoken, and since God or Gods have not actually spoken they should be ridiculed and scorned for daring to speak in a Gods name and voice when such Gods have not spoken.  I have advocated standing on a street corner and burning or shredding bibles to show my disdain for this book. :bananacolor:

OldGit

I go for keeping the winter holiday - which is much older than Christianity - but slowly phasing the 'Christ' bit out.  Of course, this is already happening on a large scale.  I see more and more Happy Holidays cards every year.

Whitney

Quote from: "Mark L Holland"Not only yes but Hell yes, Christians should be challenged on every aspect of their beliefs and falsehoods.  Any and every Christian who stands in public and proclaims, God wants this or God wants that should be immediately challenged and forced to provide proof that God has actually spoken, and since God or Gods have not actually spoken they should be ridiculed and scorned for daring to speak in a Gods name and voice when such Gods have not spoken.  I have advocated standing on a street corner and burning or shredding bibles to show my disdain for this book.

So...in essense...you are against freedom of religion?
Could you change your worldview to theist because passing readers are going to think you are an atheist and that makes us look bad.

Btw, why don't you tend to respond to critiques of your posts?  You sound like an anti-christian preacher and preaching is against forum rules.  I expect to see that you have engaged in thoughtful conversation with at least one person by the time I return on Sunday.

Kylyssa

Christmas is one of the few relatively harmless things they do, why protest it?

I make fun of it because it's become such a gross display of consumerism but I certainly don't protest it.

templeboy

Could there ever be a bigger PR fail than Atheists trying to stop christmas?

We'd be "the grinches who want to steal christmas"

Let em have this one, and enjoy the holiday yourself with your family and friends, however you see fit.
"The fool says in his heart: 'There is no God.' The Wise Man says it to the world."- Troy Witte

G-Roll

I vote no.
1. The christians stole it fair and square.
2. There is a happy holiday version full of santa clause and talking snowmen tv specials, gift giving, tree decorating, and other traditions that anyone and everyone can participate in.
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Quote from: "Moslem"
Allah (that mean God)

joeactor


MariaEvri

Nope. Two weeks of holidays, plus I get money as gift. Why spoil that :P
God made me an atheist, who are you to question his wisdom!
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LoneMateria

Quote from: "joeactor"... I'll let SpongeBob say it for me:
http://spongebob.nick.com/videos/play/d ... sic-video/

It's bad when nickelodeon is making jokes of dogs pissing on people.
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

Mark L Holland

To Whitney

  I am a card holding member of American Atheists but I am a Theist.  I believe that there is at least one God and there could easily be many Gods, I know of the existence of at least one God, so I cannot say that no other Gods exist for as far as I know there may be thousands.  I know for a fact that one God that I know of cannot and does not exist.  And that one God is the Universal God with one name, image or persona.  Which dozens of differing cults claim to be the only true followers of the one and only truly living God.

  There is no historical evidence whatsoever that a Universal God has ever existed nor will ever exist.  Now while I believe in the freedom to believe in anything or anyone that someone wishes to believe in.  That freedom ends the moment that one attempts to impose their beliefs onto others.  All Faiths and beliefs that are held to be personal and individual are valid.  All Faiths and beliefs that are held to be Universal and applicable to all others, are invalid beliefs which should be shut down immediately.

  As for me not responding to replies to my posts, this is simply because I have not noticed any yet, please remember I have only been posting here for say 3 days.  But since you have notified me that there are responses to my Posts I will go back through them and answer them.  In the few years that I have been going after Christian beliefs I have never once been accused of being timid.  Going after the Christian bible and doctrine is actually my hobby and past time entertainment.  

  I hope you have a safe trip to where ever you are going and a safe trip back.   Hopefully we can type when you get back on Sunday. :bananacolor:

G-Roll

QuoteI am a card holding member of American Atheists but I am a Theist. I believe that there is at least one God and there could easily be many Gods, I know of the existence of at least one God, so I cannot say that no other Gods exist for as far as I know there may be thousands.

?huh?
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Quote from: "Moslem"
Allah (that mean God)

Mark L Holland

To G-Roll

  Actually I do get that often.  The only difference between me and an Atheist is that I believe in God or Gods.  In all other things I agree with Atheists, no religious belief should have their beliefs enforced by secular law, nor should any religious be supported directly or indirectly by the federal, state or local Governments.  As far as I care all religious beliefs including my own are valid only when  they are held as being personal and individual.  All beliefs including mine are invalid when it is attempted to enforce those beliefs through secular laws, sanctions or any other form of Government endorsement. :bananacolor:

Will

I protest behaviors , not beliefs. I may be offended by some of the beliefs, but being offended by something doesn't give me the right to stop it, I should actually be harmed in order to respond.
I want bad people to look forward to and celebrate the day I die, because if they don't, I'm not living up to my potential.