The Impracticality of 'Heaven'

[frog818]

When you ask a Christian what happens to them when they die they inevitably something along the lines of they go to heaven where they will live forever with Jesus blah blah.  But there’s an oblivious impracticality to that belief.  Forever is never ending, it just goes on and on and on.  What on earth do think they will be doing up there for an eternity?  Do they have board games and Xbox?  Maybe a giant LAN of Counter Strike for a couple of hundred years?. Perhaps reruns of The Transformers and The Thundercats?      

The monotony of existence after even 1 million years of sentience would be unbearable. 1 million years next to infinity is non-existent.  If I were to try an compare it to a single grain of sand on earth I would be totally inaccurate as there is definite number of grains of sand on Earth.  Infinity is without end.

Then there’s the fact that you can't commit any sin in heaven, after all its God's paradise.  Sounds peachy doesn't it?  But if you live in place were there is only one choice that can be made to any given situation, then you remove some of our basic freedoms.  What makes our lives interesting and fun are the choices we make.  Surfing the net for porn maybe a sin to some people, but its a sin I like doing, as is lying to get myself out of trouble.    

The definition of a dictator from the Macquarie Dictionary states 'a person with total power, especially in a government not freely chosen by the people'.  The definition of a dictatorship is ' country, government or form of government in which one person has total power'.  That’s right if Heaven existed it would be a total dictatorship.  Things like human rights, freedom of choice, freedom of expression and the right to vote would all be chucked out the window because God as a dictator allows only what he deems as correct and nobody else.   The word heaven gives of connotations of a Utopia, but if it existed it would be far closer to Nazism.    

If I was faced with a choice of going of to Heaven to suffer under a brutal dictator forever or simply dying with my conscious simply just disappearing, then it's becomes a very obvious choice as to I would prefer.

 
BTW Come on all you trolls, come face froggie he has giant whacking stick out

[karadan]

I'd definitely prefer death. Besides, heaven has no solid ground to stand on. Sitting in clouds for eternity would get fucking annoying.

I don't think many christians think too hard about the true implications of heaven. I've never really questioned one about it though. I think i might, just to see what they say.

[SSY]

To be fair, you are assuming the same rules of experience happen in heaven, as on earth. I am sure that if god were all powerful, he would be able to keep his peeps in heaven in a state of bliss. Whether he would be able to do this without essentially dictating everything is another matter, but if you were kept in a state of of continual, unending joy, I doubt you would care too much. We don't have much of a yardstick to measure heaven with, so predicting what it would be like, compared to being here on earth, is not necessarily a fair test.

N.B. above assumes heaven and god as a given, yadda yadda, etc etc

[frog818]

To be fair, you are assuming the same rules of experience happen in heaven, as on earth. I am sure that if god were all powerful, he would be able to keep his peeps in heaven in a state of bliss. Whether he would be able to do this without essentially dictating everything is another matter, but if you were kept in a state of of continual, unending joy, I doubt you would care too much. We don't have much of a yardstick to measure heaven with, so predicting what it would be like, compared to being here on earth, is not necessarily a fair test.

N.B. above assumes heaven and god as a given, yadda yadda, etc etc

You make some excellent points, but even so endless bliss must surely get tiring after 1 billion years or even 10 billion years.

[karadan]

To be fair, you are assuming the same rules of experience happen in heaven, as on earth. I am sure that if god were all powerful, he would be able to keep his peeps in heaven in a state of bliss. Whether he would be able to do this without essentially dictating everything is another matter, but if you were kept in a state of of continual, unending joy, I doubt you would care too much. We don't have much of a yardstick to measure heaven with, so predicting what it would be like, compared to being here on earth, is not necessarily a fair test.

N.B. above assumes heaven and god as a given, yadda yadda, etc etc

But where would your frame of reference be if nothing bad ever happened? If god kept everyone in an artificial state of bliss, wouldn't that be tantamount to some kind of forced narcotic euphoria? If so, that would make god the most prolific drug dealer in existence...  :cool: