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Is feminISM a brainwashing similar to ChristianISM?

Started by cyberateos, May 22, 2009, 01:04:44 AM

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Tanker

#45
The draft is gone and you do NOT have to register for it.
(from wikipedia)
QuoteConscription in the United States (also called compulsory military service or the draft) has been employed several times, usually during war but also during the nominal peace of the Cold War. The United States discontinued the draft in 1973, moving to an all-volunteer military force, thus there is currently no mandatory conscription.

However, the Selective Service System remains in place as a contingency; men between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register so that a draft can be readily resumed. More recently registration is not required, instead information is collected for each person after their 18th birthday.

(and on the selective service)
QuoteOn December 1, 1989, Congress ordered the Selective Service System to put in place a system capable of drafting "persons qualified for practice or employment in a health care and professional occupation", if such a special-skills draft should be ordered by Congress.[46] In response, Selective Service published plans for the "Health Care Personnel Delivery System " (HCPDS) in 1989 and has had them ready ever since. The concept underwent a preliminary field exercise in Fiscal Year 1998, followed by a more extensive nationwide readiness exercise in Fiscal Year 1999. The HCPDS plans include women and men ages 20â€"54 in 57 different job categories.[47] As of May 2003, the Defense Department has said the most likely form of draft is a special skills draft, probably of health care workers.[48]

So technicly there is in place plans for an extremely limited draft for qualified medical personel (or other extremly specilised skills) only in case of extreme national emergency. The draft for the vast majority of the public is not going to happen...ever... even in a war.

I reapeat this as a veteran (it was kinda my job to know stuff like this, among others) The draft is not in effect.

while registation for selective service for all men 18 to 25 is required(fixed it)(even illeagal aliens funnyily enough) it is not enforced in anyway especialy if you can prove you did not knowingly not
register

One last time there is NO draft.
"I'd rather die the go to heaven" - William Murderface Murderface  Murderface-

I've been in fox holes, I'm still an atheist -Me-

God is a cake, and we all know what the cake is.

(my spelling, grammer, and punctuation suck, I know, but regardless of how much I read they haven't improved much since grade school. It's actually a bit of a family joke.

VanReal

Quote from: "Tanker"The draft is gone and you do NOT have to register for it.
(from wikipedia)
QuoteConscription in the United States (also called compulsory military service or the draft) has been employed several times, usually during war but also during the nominal peace of the Cold War. The United States discontinued the draft in 1973, moving to an all-volunteer military force, thus there is currently no mandatory conscription.

However, the Selective Service System remains in place as a contingency; men between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register so that a draft can be readily resumed. More recently registration is not required, instead information is collected for each person after their 18th birthday.

(and on the selective service)
QuoteOn December 1, 1989, Congress ordered the Selective Service System to put in place a system capable of drafting "persons qualified for practice or employment in a health care and professional occupation", if such a special-skills draft should be ordered by Congress.[46] In response, Selective Service published plans for the "Health Care Personnel Delivery System " (HCPDS) in 1989 and has had them ready ever since. The concept underwent a preliminary field exercise in Fiscal Year 1998, followed by a more extensive nationwide readiness exercise in Fiscal Year 1999. The HCPDS plans include women and men ages 20â€"54 in 57 different job categories.[47] As of May 2003, the Defense Department has said the most likely form of draft is a special skills draft, probably of health care workers.[48]

So technicly there is in place plans for an extremely limited draft for qualified medical personel (or other extremly specilised skills) only in case of extreme national emergency. The draft for the vast majority of the public is not going to happen...ever... even in a war.

I reapeat this as a veteran (it was kinda my job to know stuff like this, among others) The draft is not in effect.

while registation for selective service for all men 18 to 25 (even illeagal aliens funily enough) it is not enforced in anyway especialy if you can prove you did not knowingly not
register

One last time there is NO draft.

Sorry, once again wiki is incorrect.  Registering is still a requirement, whether or not it can be fully enforced does not matter, there are several things that will be difficult for males (like obtaining student loans, etc.) if they have not registered and most states have even addressed this with adding it as a requirement as well.  Because it is not currently active and/or being implemented or utilized does not mean it does not exist and has been done away with as you state.  Your second source even proves it does exist and can at any time become effective again, even if they expect it to be in limited specialties.  It's a common misconception that this all went away after the Vietnam war, this is just not true.  I too was in the service, that is not really a novelty to this knowledge.

Sec. 454. Persons liable for training and service(a) Age limits; training in National Security Training Corps; physical and mental
fitness; adequate training facilities; assignment to stations and units;
training period; medical specialist categories
Except as otherwise provided in this title (sections 451 to 471a of this Appendix),
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every person required to register pursuant to section 3 of this title (section 453 of
this Appendix) who is between the ages of eighteen years and six months and
twenty-six years, at the time fixed for his registration, or who attains the age of
eighteen years and six months after having been required to register pursuant to
section 3 of this title (section 453 of this Appendix), or who is otherwise liable as
provided in section 6(h) of this title (section 456(h) of this Appendix), shall be liable
for training and service in the Armed Forces of the United States: Provided, That
each registrant shall be immediately liable for classification and examination, and
shall, as soon as practicable following his registration, be so classified and
examined, both physically and mentally, in order to determine his availability for
induction for training and service in the Armed Forces: Provided further, That,
notwithstanding any other provision of law, any registrant who has failed or refused
to report for induction shall continue to remain liable for induction and when
available shall be immediately inducted. The President is authorized, from time to
time, whether or not a state of war exists, to select and induct into the Armed
Forces of the United States for training and service in the manner provided in this
title (said sections) (including but not limited to selection and induction by age group
or age groups) such number of persons as may be required to provide and
maintain the strength of the Armed Forces
.http://www.sss.gov/PDFs/MSSA-2003.pdf

We'll just have to agree to disagree but I sure know I had to provide the info on my son's FASFA and college applications.
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. (Kathy Norris)
They say I have ADHD but I think they are full of...oh, look a kitty!! (unknown)

Tanker

You're right, Vanreal about registering being mandatory. It was a typo on my part however it really is not enforced. I belive now they just take the info at your 18th birthday, rather then requiring registration, wiki was NOT the only souce I checked but views seeemed to differ on the point from site to site.
"I'd rather die the go to heaven" - William Murderface Murderface  Murderface-

I've been in fox holes, I'm still an atheist -Me-

God is a cake, and we all know what the cake is.

(my spelling, grammer, and punctuation suck, I know, but regardless of how much I read they haven't improved much since grade school. It's actually a bit of a family joke.

VanReal

Quote from: "Tanker"You're right, Vanreal about registering being mandatory. It was a typo on my part however it really is not enforced. I belive now they just take the info at your 18th birthday, rather then requiring registration, wiki was NOT the only souce I checked but views seeemed to differ on the point from site to site.

I found that too, it's kind of vague, and since it hasn't reared its ugly head or been of any consequence (nor do I think it ever will be) it really doesn't matter.  Personally I think everyone should have to do at least two years after getting out of high school, or reaching 18 if not in school.  I see a lot of nuckle heads that could use it to realize nothing comes for free.  (Although sitting around in the motor pool and playing bones in the field might not drive that point home, hehe  :headbang: !
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. (Kathy Norris)
They say I have ADHD but I think they are full of...oh, look a kitty!! (unknown)

Heretical Rants

http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm
Registration is the law. A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years.

Even if not tried, a man who fails to register with Selective Service before turning age 26 may find that some doors are permanently closed.


Quote from: "VanReal"getting it back on topic it should be equal for both men and women....and feminists rock  :headbang:  :headbang: