dissproving god

athiest12 · February 25, 2009, 02:01:09 PM

i'm doing a debate and exactly how should i go about dispproving god?

curiosityandthecat · February 25, 2009, 02:55:56 PM

Kazoos and streamers tend to help.

karadan · February 25, 2009, 03:03:43 PM

You can't disprove it. That is why religion exists. You can, however, put forward a very eloquent case as to why following religion is ultimately foolhardy and a waste of time.

It is probably best to look back over many of the threads created here. This forum contains stunningly intellectual users who possess genuine literary talent. You'll have a great time reading, I'm sure.

karadan · February 25, 2009, 03:04:51 PM

Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"Kazoos and streamers tend to help.

Ack! Pipped to the post by the anti-troll troll!

:cool:

curiosityandthecat · February 25, 2009, 03:30:47 PM

Quote from: "karadan"Ack! Pipped to the post by the anti-troll troll!

In all honesty, though, it's about marketing. Calling upon religious folk to use their logic and reason to try to disprove God is like calling upon cooks to use their understanding of Kantian imperatives to disprove the Maillard effect: useless. To them (the religious folks, not the cooks), God is not simply a causal aspect of life to be proven or disproven. It is life, much like they believe the Bible is the word of God, or the Eucharist is the body of Christ (sure, that's Catholics, but you get my point).

I've found that external forces very, very, very rarely, if ever, "turn the tide" of religious folks' thought. All we can do is plant the seed and hope it grows. Suggest books that will change how they think without advertising the fact. It's like night-vision: if you go straight for the God-center of their brain, you'll miss it, but if you go just to the side...

Whitney · February 26, 2009, 12:23:34 AM

Quote from: "athiest12"i'm doing a debate and exactly how should i go about dispproving god?

Which one?

athiest12 · February 26, 2009, 02:16:16 PM

i keep tryin to persuade my friend to agree with me that religion is a joke. but he just won't listen. hyow would u go about trying to convice someone that the idea of an omnipotent god is impossible?

curiosityandthecat · February 26, 2009, 03:05:06 PM

Get smarter friends and this won't be an issue.

Enoch Root · February 26, 2009, 03:22:56 PM

Why are you trying to convince him?

athiest12 · February 26, 2009, 03:30:58 PM

i dunno its just something we've been doin for awhile now. but its mainly because he never shuts up about jesus and how i'm gonna burn in hell for being a god hating bastard

Enoch Root · February 26, 2009, 04:16:11 PM

So... is he actually your friend?

Just tell him you're not interested in his message. Walk away when he starts going on about it.

Ihateyoumike · February 26, 2009, 07:28:49 PM

If you don't want this guy converting you, why try to convert him? If his talk about his faith is too much, ask him to stop. If he doesn't, be done with him. But don't stoop to his level.

Whitney · February 27, 2009, 12:45:18 AM

Atheist12 (btw, welcome to the forum) please try to not start new topics on essentially the same subject. I'm going to combine the two threads.

athiest12 · February 27, 2009, 03:23:57 PM

okay sorry about that i"ll keep it in mind

Moigle · February 28, 2009, 11:16:14 AM

It is claimed that God is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent.

But evil exists

- If God doesn't know about evil he is not omniscient.
- If God knows about evil but cannot stop it, he is not omnipotent.
- If God knows about evil and he can stop it but doesn't, he is not omnibenevolent.

QED: God does not exist.

Apologists have come of with dozens of explanations for this "problem of evil" (as it is known) but all of them have been refuted and the conclusion holds good: God does not exist.

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