dissproving god

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[Psalm23]

Atheist12,

From a Scientific stand point. God cannot be proven nor disproven. If you find someone who has disproved God.. then you have found the very first person in history that can prove a negative. Impossible. Atheists are fighting a losing and on-going battle with God's existence.

[McQ]

Atheist12,

From a Scientific stand point. God cannot be proven nor disproven. If you find someone who has disproved God.. then you have found the very first person in history that can prove a negative. Impossible. Atheists are fighting a losing and on-going battle with God's existence.

This is something I see here all the time. People making the thoughtless statement that you cannot prove a negative. That's not strictly true, although I really don't waste my time trying to prove negatives, I simply ask for evidence of claims that people make.

Here's a link to a PDF file that discusses "Proving a Negative". I read it years ago, and bookmarked it. Even emailed the author and wrote back and forth a few times. Nice guy.

http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosoph ... ative.html

[Psalm23]

Atheist12,

From a Scientific stand point. God cannot be proven nor disproven. If you find someone who has disproved God.. then you have found the very first person in history that can prove a negative. Impossible. Atheists are fighting a losing and on-going battle with God's existence.

This is something I see here all the time. People making the thoughtless statement that you cannot prove a negative. That's not strictly true, although I really don't waste my time trying to prove negatives, I simply ask for evidence of claims that people make.

Here's a link to a PDF file that discusses "Proving a Negative". I read it years ago, and bookmarked it. Even emailed the author and wrote back and forth a few times. Nice guy.

http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosoph ... ative.html

I will read your PDF file later today, i'm kinda busy right now.

I encourage you to visit Youtube and watch the "Bill O'Reilly vs. Richard Dawkins" debate.

Bill O'Reilly; "You sir cannot prove to me that Jesus wasn't God, can you?"
Richard Dawkins; "No, I cannot prove Jesus wasn't God."

Ok, after that being said, please allow me to jump in and attack Mr. Dawkins' reply to O'Reilly.

How can someone like Richard Dawkins claim, "God is a Delusion" and then say on National TV that he cannot fully disprove God? Where is the common sense in the atheist argument?

Anyone can say, "I don't believe in God," but where is your evidence to back up your statement? I thought atheists demanded evidence before they can believe in something?

[curiosityandthecat]

I will read your PDF file later today, i'm kinda busy right now.

I encourage you to visit Youtube and watch the "Bill O'Reilly vs. Richard Dawkins" debate.

Bill O'Reilly; "You sir cannot prove to me that Jesus wasn't God, can you?"
Richard Dawkins; "No, I cannot prove Jesus wasn't God."

Ok, after that being said, please allow me to jump in and attack Mr. Dawkins' reply to O'Reilly.

How can someone like Richard Dawkins claim, "God is a Delusion" and then say on National TV that he cannot fully disprove God? Where is the common sense in the atheist argument?

Anyone can say, "I don't believe in God," but where is your evidence to back up your statement? I thought atheists demanded evidence before they can believe in something?

Celestial teapot.

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[Ihateyoumike]

Anyone can say, "I don't believe in God," but where is your evidence to back up your statement? I thought atheists demanded evidence before they can believe in something?

Considering the overwhelming lack of evidence for your god, "I don't believe in god" is a perfectly acceptable stance.
I demand evidence for your god, or I will continue to believe that something other than your interpretation of events was the cause of the universe. What that cause was? I don't know. But I'm as close to 100% sure as I can get that it wasn't your god that did it.

[McQ]

Atheist12,

From a Scientific stand point. God cannot be proven nor disproven. If you find someone who has disproved God.. then you have found the very first person in history that can prove a negative. Impossible. Atheists are fighting a losing and on-going battle with God's existence.

This is something I see here all the time. People making the thoughtless statement that you cannot prove a negative. That's not strictly true, although I really don't waste my time trying to prove negatives, I simply ask for evidence of claims that people make.

Here's a link to a PDF file that discusses "Proving a Negative". I read it years ago, and bookmarked it. Even emailed the author and wrote back and forth a few times. Nice guy.

http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosoph ... ative.html

I will read your PDF file later today, i'm kinda busy right now.

I encourage you to visit Youtube and watch the "Bill O'Reilly vs. Richard Dawkins" debate.

Bill O'Reilly; "You sir cannot prove to me that Jesus wasn't God, can you?"
Richard Dawkins; "No, I cannot prove Jesus wasn't God."

Ok, after that being said, please allow me to jump in and attack Mr. Dawkins' reply to O'Reilly.

How can someone like Richard Dawkins claim, "God is a Delusion" and then say on National TV that he cannot fully disprove God? Where is the common sense in the atheist argument?

Anyone can say, "I don't believe in God," but where is your evidence to back up your statement? I thought atheists demanded evidence before they can believe in something?

Are you serious, Psalm23? If not, then get serious. You have claimed to have debated with (in your words) "literally thousands" of atheists. Yet this is the argument you make. You are either lying about having debated atheists, or you found the fabled ancient lost city of stupid people and debated them.

Don't waste people's time when you don't have a clue about their beliefs. You are clueless when it comes to understanding what atheists believe and don't believe. It has been explained, so rather than continue to post, how about take the time to read up in the forum on what atheists believe and don't believe.

For one thing, no one here speaks for Dawkins. You want to debate him, go ahead. But stop making Straw Man arguments like "atheists have to have evidence for not believing in god". That is pure bunk. Do you believe in the god, Zeus? Why not? How about Odin? Why not? What proof do you have they don't exist? See the issue? It's not up to you to prove Zeus and Odin don't exist, it is up to those who claim they do exist to prove it. Just like it is with you and your particular sky daddy.

You want to debate, then do it right. Learn about those you are debating with first, and don't waste their time or yours.

[Sophus]

From a Scientific stand point. God cannot be proven nor disproven. If you find someone who has disproved God.. then you have found the very first person in history that can prove a negative. Impossible. Atheists are fighting a losing and on-going battle with God's existence.

The burden of proof is not on us. I can't prove Big Foot. Does that mean you should believe in him until he is disproven? Of course not. Instead you should use reason to form an opinion on Big Foot.

[curiosityandthecat]

You are either lying about having debated atheists, or you found the fabled ancient lost city of stupid people and debated them.

Laughed for twenty minutes at that. Honestly.