Ken Ham Gets A Whuppin!

[Kyuuketsuki]

From the excellent Pharyngula site:

You said that unicorns are real. You claim that the Beowulf story is evidence of human cohabitation with dinosaurs. You say that sometimes religious genocide is OK. You think that the government is training people to talk to aliens. You believe that evolution is a random process, a process of blind chance, which is just factually wrong. You target children because they can't defend themselves and trust you (talk about a cowardly act). You believe if a 2-year old understands it, it must be cutting edge science. You believe that observation and measurement cannot trump "common sense." You believe you do the type of science that you need faith to understand instead of, you know, understanding to understand. You believe...whatever the fuck this is. You employ the nanny-nanny boo-boo defense. Your ilk do not even try to publish outside of their little circle, and you set up a bogus journal to pretend that you were scholars, THEREBY AVOIDING THE DEBATE YOU CLAIM TO CRAVE. You stare at evolution, describe evolution, and then say, "It's not evolution."

And yet you wonder why someone with an education and responsibilities and a reputation would not talk to you? Despite this record of shame (I could have gone on and on just looking at my website alone), you have the balls to claim that you won something by [being] so catastrophically ignorant as to be not worth speaking to?

KEN, WE ARE TIRED OF TRYING TO TALK TO YOU. WE HAVE MOVED ON TO RIDICULE. THIS IS WHAT YOU DESERVE, YOU PIG-IGNORANT SLAVE.

And it's about damned time someone stuck a rocket up that [expletive deleted] idiots backside (not that I'm stupid enough to believe it will make a difference).

Read The Original Piece Here: Ken Ham: "I'm not a moron! No, really!"

Kyu

[rlrose328]

Wow... that's amazing.  Are we, as atheists, becoming braver in ripping the religionists a new one when warranted?  I agree with everything HJ said... it's all I've said in private myself.  Good for him!  

[LARA]

Dr. Meyers is unbelievably adept at the very precise and vicious destruction of religious twits.  I have to applaud.   But....

Does our anger further our position?  I'm not immune to it by any means.  Even small mentions of religious lunacy and superstitious nonsense trying to pass itself off as real thinking tend to send me into a fit of irrational and angry linguistic stylations.  And often, I have to admit, me reading Pharyngula tends to catalyze my own rather pent up agressions towards religion and superstition.   Maybe some atheists are good at directing their verbal anger towards others who really, really deserve it, but as a trend, I question the usefulness of my own and others anger in making atheism just as valid a viewpoint in public eyes as any other philosophical or religious standpoint, while at the same time absolutely reveling in the instances where an atheist cuts someone down on a supernatural supposition.

[Kyuuketsuki]

Hi Lara,

Dr. Meyers is unbelievably adept at the very precise and vicious destruction of religious twits.  I have to applaud.   But....

Does our anger further our position?  I'm not immune to it by any means.  Even small mentions of religious lunacy and superstitious nonsense trying to pass itself off as real thinking tend to send me into a fit of irrational and angry linguistic stylations.  And often, I have to admit, me reading Pharyngula tends to catalyze my own rather pent up agressions towards religion and superstition.   Maybe some atheists are good at directing their verbal anger towards others who really, really deserve it, but as a trend, I question the usefulness of my own and others anger in making atheism just as valid a viewpoint in public eyes as any other philosophical or religious standpoint, while at the same time absolutely reveling in the instances where an atheist cuts someone down on a supernatural supposition.

Yeah, the same point has been raised elsewhere and whilst I understand it I don't really agree ... I think anger has its place and can sometimes be justified. A lot of people think Dawkins (in "The God Delusion") was vicious and angry, many of them atheists ... I don't agree, I think he was right on the money, he was logical, efficient, matter-of-fact and I think people misinterpret his cold rational style for viciousness (presumably because they don't want to hear it or they just don't like his style).

I'm sure you realised this but it wasn't actually Myers who said that but "Happy Jihad"

Kyu

[rlrose328]

Dr. Meyers is unbelievably adept at the very precise and vicious destruction of religious twits.  I have to applaud.   But....

Does our anger further our position?  I'm not immune to it by any means.  Even small mentions of religious lunacy and superstitious nonsense trying to pass itself off as real thinking tend to send me into a fit of irrational and angry linguistic stylations.  And often, I have to admit, me reading Pharyngula tends to catalyze my own rather pent up agressions towards religion and superstition.   Maybe some atheists are good at directing their verbal anger towards others who really, really deserve it, but as a trend, I question the usefulness of my own and others anger in making atheism just as valid a viewpoint in public eyes as any other philosophical or religious standpoint, while at the same time absolutely reveling in the instances where an atheist cuts someone down on a supernatural supposition.

I agree with you about the anger thing... I have a hard time controlling my rage and sarcasm toward the religious and their inanity.  But complacency and tolerance haven't worked very well up to this point.  What comes next?  Righteous indignation.  They've had it for years and played it often... it's time we used our righteous indignation in return.

[LARA]

Oops, Kyu, no I didn't check on that one, I appreciate the correction!  Thought it was his writing since it was from Pharyngula.  Thanks.

[Kyuuketsuki]

Oops, Kyu, no I didn't check on that one, I appreciate the correction!  Thought it was his writing since it was from Pharyngula.  Thanks.

Is OK ... I struggled with how to phrase it because I didn't want you to think I was being critical (not easy in forum posts)

Kyu