Are We Fucked, Climate Wise?

[zorkan]

Nottingham was as hot as the surface of Mercury.
Over 400C. Should we rename it Hottingham?
But mild compared to the Earth's core at 5200C.
Confused it might have been minus 404C.
Is that colder than absolute zero?

I see everything was okay in the end and just a glitch.
https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2024/10/10/bbc_weather_error_predicts_lows/

But rest assured, the BBC will be the first to let us know when the world ends.

[Asmodean]

Well, there you go then! Nottingham survived positively Venusian temperatures, so that whole global warming thing... Not so bad.

[zorkan]

Venus was a nightclub in Nottingham.
It got pretty hot in there.

[Asmodean]

The Asmo hereby has a solution to global warming. AC in night clubs.

He asks that His Nobel Prize be sent to the following address;

The Great and Terrible The Asmo
C/O: Nameless Minion
Evil-looking Ice Castle 1, room 1
Rat Ear Island,
Somewhere in the Arctic

...And now He waitest.

[zorkan]

Let's hope it arrives before the melting of all the Arctic.

[Asmodean]

Bah! The Asmo shalt air condition His Evil Island as viciously as He doth His car. -14C at the air slots.

[Tank]

Well one thing about global warming is that it will cure itself. The question is will humans survive?

[billy rubin]

we probably will. but things will be different.

four hundred years ago the coral reefs in the south pacific were vastly different from what they would become 200 years ago. and more different still 100 years ago.

and today theyre not the same at all.

we re here, but we live in a different place.

[Dark Lightning]

Homo Sap is such a vicious critter (how else did we get to the top of the food chain?) that I expect continued survival. I wouldn't think that it would be a pretty scenario.

[Asmodean]

we probably will. but things will be different.

four hundred years ago the coral reefs in the south pacific were vastly different from what they would become 200 years ago. and more different still 100 years ago.

and today theyre not the same at all.

we re here, but we live in a different place.

I suppose I have belaboured this point before, but this is largely where my issue with the environmental movements lies. They tend to present climate change as an extinction event for humanity, when in reality, it is unlikely to rise even to the level of a zombie apocalypse in that sense.

Yes, there may be hunger, mass migration, resource wars and a few billion deaths. The survivors will rebuild and carry on surviving wherever may be habitable enough for that, and over generations, they may even adapt to their new conditions.

Humans are "everywhere" and capable of shaping many environments to suit their needs. Climate-wise, we are likely to be among the last "large" land creatures to sail into that sunset. It will, however, likely be a completely different sunset than what we are used to.

The Earth is changing. We may even drive a lot of those changes. Should we continue? Why? Well, for increased technological progress, prosperity and comfort. Should we stop? Why? "Because those changes will wipe us out" rings rather hollow, as even if it was the case... Ok. Say we just stop all polluting activity right now. Are we somehow no longer fucked in the grand scheme of things? Or did we just postpone the fuckening a generation or two?

I'd be happy enough to buy the "don't piss gasoline on a fire" argument if there was something more to it - something to make it worthwhile. (For-a-slightly-shitty-example, humanity has a road map to colonising other planets, but that road map is 400 years long. Yes, in that case, I'd be very much inclined to support trying to keep the planet livable and productive for that stretch of time)

[Tank]

we probably will. but things will be different.

four hundred years ago the coral reefs in the south pacific were vastly different from what they would become 200 years ago. and more different still 100 years ago.

and today theyre not the same at all.

we re here, but we live in a different place.

I suspect that humanity won't go extinct as we can survive in almost any environment and eat almost anything. Plus we can radically alter our local environment to suit ourselves in the case of accommodation and agriculture.