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What would the world be like without religion?

Started by atheist2308, July 18, 2008, 04:44:37 AM

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atheist2308

July 18, 2008, 04:44:37 AM
Maybe I'm in the right thread here.

What would the world be like without religion? (but with all of the laws we have today minus the ones derived from religion) Would it be better or worse? Tell me what you think.

Personally, I believe it would be better because religion has held back the advancement of so many things throughout history, with science being at the top of the list. I don't remember who said this quote but here it is, "If there was no religion, Columbus might have landed on the moon." Might not be worded right either but its close enough.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

myleviathan

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July 18, 2008, 04:54:25 AM
Quote from: "atheist2308"What would the world be like without religion? (but with all of the laws we have today minus the ones derived from religion) Would it be better or worse? Tell me what you think.

I imagine us being quite like the Vulcan race on Star Trek.
"On the moon our weekends are so far advanced they encompass the entire week. Jobs have been phased out. We get checks from the government, and we spend it on beer! Mexican beer! That's the cheapest of all beers." --- Ignignokt & Err

atheist2308

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July 18, 2008, 05:10:21 AM
QuoteI imagine us being quite like the Vulcan race on Star Trek.

I would have to agree with you on that, except I think we'd show a little more emotion.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

myleviathan

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July 18, 2008, 05:14:13 AM
Quote from: "atheist2308"
QuoteI imagine us being quite like the Vulcan race on Star Trek.

I would have to agree with you on that, except I think we'd show a little more emotion.

Yeah, you're right. But we'd still have more emotion than the  :borg:
"On the moon our weekends are so far advanced they encompass the entire week. Jobs have been phased out. We get checks from the government, and we spend it on beer! Mexican beer! That's the cheapest of all beers." --- Ignignokt & Err

atheist2308

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July 18, 2008, 05:30:23 AM
Quote from: "myleviathan"
Quote from: "atheist2308"
QuoteI imagine us being quite like the Vulcan race on Star Trek.

I would have to agree with you on that, except I think we'd show a little more emotion.

Yeah, you're right. But we'd still have more emotion than the  :borg:


lol I'd would hope so.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

afreethinker30

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July 18, 2008, 06:09:03 PM
Today only free birth control for all religious folk!
I would think that the birth rate wouldn't be so damned high,but then alot of people wouldn't have died in religious wars so not sure.I do think that people would get along much better,there would be nothing to seperate them on the religious front.But I know people would have to find something to fight over land probley.There would be no hate for atheists  :D  And no fights over creation taught in classrooms.I think children would recieve better education.Maybe someone would have found a cure for fatal dieases like cancer and AIDS.The GLBT comm. would be treated better.Science would probley be very highly taught and thought of.

Loffler

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July 18, 2008, 06:47:15 PM
Quote from: "afreethinker30"Today only free birth control for all religious folk!
I would think that the birth rate wouldn't be so damned high,but then alot of people wouldn't have died in religious wars so not sure.I do think that people would get along much better,there would be nothing to seperate them on the religious front.But I know people would have to find something to fight over land probley.There would be no hate for atheists  :D  And no fights over creation taught in classrooms.I think children would recieve better education.Maybe someone would have found a cure for fatal dieases like cancer and AIDS.The GLBT comm. would be treated better.Science would probley be very highly taught and thought of.

I wish medical science would make it so that people are born sterile and have to have their fertility activate through an expensive surgical procedure.

atheist2308

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July 18, 2008, 07:44:34 PM
Quote from: "afreethinker30"Today only free birth control for all religious folk!
I would think that the birth rate wouldn't be so damned high,but then alot of people wouldn't have died in religious wars so not sure.I do think that people would get along much better,there would be nothing to seperate them on the religious front.But I know people would have to find something to fight over land probley.There would be no hate for atheists  :D  And no fights over creation taught in classrooms.I think children would recieve better education.Maybe someone would have found a cure for fatal dieases like cancer and AIDS.The GLBT comm. would be treated better.Science would probley be very highly taught and thought of.


Exactly! I truely believe that technology, science, medicine and so much more would be so far advanced that it would blow our minds. Some of those people that were killed by religion could have invented thing hundreds (if not thousands) of years before they were invented. Medicine has only been around for, i believe, less then 200 years. You know what they used before that? Praying. And some people still refuse to take medicine, trusting only in praying and god to heal them or someone else. Bullshit! I am dumbfounded by some things people do. Religion is a virus and needs to be eradicated.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

Asmodean

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July 18, 2008, 07:44:47 PM
In my subjective opinion, the world without religion would be a far better place than it is today.  :banna:
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atheist2308

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July 18, 2008, 07:53:14 PM
QuoteI wish medical science would make it so that people are born sterile and have to have their fertility activate through an expensive surgical procedure.

Thats a good idea if ya ask me,  because population control is definitely something the world needs. This planet is only so big and has only so much resources available. Me on the other hand, I have already chosen not to have kids because I don't want to bring a life into the world as it is today.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

atheist2308

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July 18, 2008, 08:03:39 PM
I was just thinking and I believe it could still happen. It would take a lot of work and time and all atheist and other non-believers to all join together and fight the systems that be. Not by killing of course, but by using our brains and our words, oh and the laws. I don't know if any of you know this but in Tennessee, where I live, it is a state law that no atheist can hold a public office. That is a direct violation of the Constitution.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

Loffler

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July 18, 2008, 08:37:20 PM
Quote from: "atheist2308"I was just thinking and I believe it could still happen. It would take a lot of work and time and all atheist and other non-believers to all join together and fight the systems that be. Not by killing of course, but by using our brains and our words, oh and the laws. I don't know if any of you know this but in Tennessee, where I live, it is a state law that no atheist can hold a public office. That is a direct violation of the Constitution.

Wow, you weren't kidding.

tdh26

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July 19, 2008, 01:08:24 AM
Seeing the only people replying so far are the atheists I will take a stab. You can tell me to leave seeing this is the 'Happy Atheist forum'
I can't see how the world could be better without religion. All you talk about is the bad that happens from religion. What about the Good? Education, Hospitals, Science. You commented that religion and science are at odds with each other. How not true. Christianity helped science get started. Where's your proof. Who started the great universites of the world. Not atheists! If you want to bring up Copernicus, remember the Church had their own scientists and Copernicus couldn't prove his theory. It was just a theory then, as it turns out, he just happened to be right and the church got ridiculed for it and they have apologized if I remember, seeing they are not the stuards of science anyway. How has religion hampered science? What has Atheism brought to the table?

Loffler

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July 19, 2008, 02:01:27 AM
Quote from: "tdh26"Seeing the only people replying so far are the atheists I will take a stab. You can tell me to leave seeing this is the 'Happy Atheist forum'
2000 years later and you Christians still haven't gotten over being fed to lions.
QuoteI can't see how the world could be better without religion. All you talk about is the bad that happens from religion. What about the Good? Education, Hospitals, Science.
We would have that without religion. Religion played a part in education, hospitals and science for most of history because religion played a part in everything. If you wanted to build a school,hospital or science institute 500 years ago, the church was the way to go. Now, religion gets in the way of all three of these things.
QuoteYou commented that religion and science are at odds with each other. How not true. Christianity helped science get started. Where's your proof. Who started the great universities of the world. Not atheists! If you want to bring up Copernicus, remember the Church had their own scientists and Copernicus couldn't prove his theory. It was just a theory then, as it turns out, he just happened to be right and the church got ridiculed for it and they have apologized if I remember, seeing they are not the stewards of science anyway. How has religion hampered science? What has Atheism brought to the table?
Everything else. Science itself. A Christian scientist is both a Christian and a scientist, but one does not use their religion to explore science. One uses secular methods to explore science.

atheist2308

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July 19, 2008, 03:01:41 AM
QuoteYou can tell me to leave seeing this is the 'Happy Atheist forum'

If someone tells you to leave, it will not have been me. Thats one thing I do believe in, and thats Freedom of Speech. Well, that and the rest of our freedoms.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

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