The "perfect pringle"....

[nikkixsugar]

I think it was by laetus, or maybe McQ.....but whoever wrote it, could you please tell me about it, and explain it? Thanks. All I remember is "If I could imagine a Pringle of infinite size and perfect deliciousness" or something like that.

[Will]

Ah, that would be me. I was responding to a modal ontological argument made by St. Anselm of Canterbury elsewhere and carried over my argument here for some reason.

The argument:
1. God is, by definition, a being than which nothing greater can be conceived (imagined).
2. Existence in reality is greater than existence in the mind.
3. God must exist in reality, if God did not then God would not be that which nothing greater can be conceived (imagined).

My response:
Let's say that I have P, a potato chip that has infinite surface, height, and perfect taste. This is the greatest potato chip ever, ever. P is the greatest potato chip that can exist - existing is greater than not existing, therefore P must have existed (before I ate it).

Edit: I later changed it to a Pringle because, let's face it, Pringles are the best potato chip.

[nikkixsugar]

thank you very much Willravel. I'm still a tad foggy but is this the gist of it?

"just because it CAN exist doesn't mean it does?"

Again, thanks for replying and I'm sure once I grasp it better It will be a nice argument to add to my repetoire!  

[Will]

The gist is that the axiom is flawed.

First, perfection is always subjective. Second, existence in reality is not necessarily greater than the human mind as the human imagination can break the rules of reality.

[nikkixsugar]

Thanks!

[afreethinker30]

Ah, that would be me. I was responding to a modal ontological argument made by St. Anselm of Canterbury elsewhere and carried over my argument here for some reason.

The argument:
1. God is, by definition, a being than which nothing greater can be conceived (imagined).
2. Existence in reality is greater than existence in the mind.
3. God must exist in reality, if God did not then God would not be that which nothing greater can be conceived (imagined).

My response:
Let's say that I have P, a potato chip that has infinite surface, height, and perfect taste. This is the greatest potato chip ever, ever. P is the greatest potato chip that can exist - existing is greater than not existing, therefore P must have existed (before I ate it).

Edit: I later changed it to a Pringle because, let's face it, Pringles are the best potato chip.

Pringles odd way of getting a point across.

[Will]

What happened to the beets Will?

The beet analogy was for my particular attitude about homosexuality. I've got a food analogy for every occasion.  

[afreethinker30]

What happened to the beets Will?

The beet analogy was for my particular attitude about homosexuality. I've got a food analogy for every occasion.  

[karadan]

Pringles are also the coolest shape - a hyperbolic paraboloid.

[Asmodean]

Pringles are also the coolest shape - a hyperbolic paraboloid.

A proof of an engineering genius behind each one The curves have to be just right.

[nikkixsugar]

What happened to the beets Will?

The beet analogy was for my particular attitude about homosexuality. I've got a food analogy for every occasion.  

Okay.....(I'm afraid to ask) What's the beet analogy?

[Will]

Okay.....(I'm afraid to ask) What's the beet analogy?

When I discuss my opinion of homosexuality with people, I usually end up talking about beets.

"I don't particularly care for beets, you see. The taste is off and I don't like the texture. Likewise, I'm not really interested in a sexual relationship with a man. But do you see me in the street picketing against beets? Do you see me disrupt the funeral of someone who ate beets? No. Why? Because I'm not an idiot. I understand that a personal choice that doesn't effect me in any way shape or form isn't something I need to get up in arms about. If someone wants to eat a beet or have a loving relationship with a member of their own gender, I'm happy for them because they've found something that makes them happy.

If you don't like the idea of homosexuality, stop thinking about it all the time you big queen!"

[susangail]

I absolutely love your analogies Will!

[nikkixsugar]

Okay.....(I'm afraid to ask) What's the beet analogy?

When I discuss my opinion of homosexuality with people, I usually end up talking about beets.

"I don't particularly care for beets, you see. The taste is off and I don't like the texture. Likewise, I'm not really interested in a sexual relationship with a man. But do you see me in the street picketing against beets? Do you see me disrupt the funeral of someone who ate beets? No. Why? Because I'm not an idiot. I understand that a personal choice that doesn't effect me in any way shape or form isn't something I need to get up in arms about. If someone wants to eat a beet or have a loving relationship with a member of their own gender, I'm happy for them because they've found something that makes them happy.

If you don't like the idea of homosexuality, stop thinking about it all the time you big queen!"

hahaha that's good. You've got talent, Will!

[karadan]

Okay.....(I'm afraid to ask) What's the beet analogy?

When I discuss my opinion of homosexuality with people, I usually end up talking about beets.

"I don't particularly care for beets, you see. The taste is off and I don't like the texture. Likewise, I'm not really interested in a sexual relationship with a man. But do you see me in the street picketing against beets? Do you see me disrupt the funeral of someone who ate beets? No. Why? Because I'm not an idiot. I understand that a personal choice that doesn't effect me in any way shape or form isn't something I need to get up in arms about. If someone wants to eat a beet or have a loving relationship with a member of their own gender, I'm happy for them because they've found something that makes them happy.

If you don't like the idea of homosexuality, stop thinking about it all the time you big queen!"

Brilliant! i'm gonna remember that one for future use if i ever cross paths with a bigot