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[Pasta Chick]

If you heard the "lockerroom" tape, and thought "aw gee, boys will be boys! Nothing wrong with that!"

Then you do NOT respect women.

Period.

And yes, I feel that is your normal, I do think there's a good chance you're on the other side of a statistic, and you probably don't even know it.

[Steeler]

If you heard the "lockerroom" tape, and thought "aw gee, boys will be boys! Nothing wrong with that!"

Then you do NOT respect women.

Period.

And yes, I feel that is your normal, I do think there's a good chance you're on the other side of a statistic, and you probably don't even know it.

Ok I'm back lol. I honestly don't want you thinking that pasta.
This is exactly what I'm talking about, not understanding each other. Shit I know females that say shit as bad as he did. Now if I said that, and food it regularly to women, little different than dudes just talking shit.
Now I know you'll say that he did do it. Ok but I'm not convinced of their stories, what 15 years later? Credibility takes a little hit there with me.

[Tank]

You peeps don't comprehend very well. Or read what I said.
One way, your way.
Davin, your opinion is garbage to me. I'm done here.

Shame. I like looking at both sides of the coin with somebody who can be bothered to make the effort.
Would you change anything about Trump if you could?

[Steeler]

You peeps don't comprehend very well. Or read what I said.
One way, your way.
Davin, your opinion is garbage to me. I'm done here.

Shame. I like looking at both sides of the coin with somebody who can be bothered to make the effort.
Would you change anything about Trump if you could?

I do to Tank. That's why I came here. But I can't get one person to simply say  You know what, we are just different people from different walks of life and I can respect that.
Zero give. It's seems it's my way is the only way and everybody else is a fucking red neck, idiot, racist, womanizer.
Simply because they are too ignorant to understand there are people in this world who operate differently. And that it's ok.

I'm talking to Asmo in another thread and I can tell he doesn't understand the US gun culture. That's perfectly fine, and I think he understands that it's just a different mindset I guess, nothing bad or wrong, just different.

[Harmonie]

He said that 10 years ago. I don't think he knew he would be president then.

First of all, what does that second sentence even mean. It sounds like you're saying that because he didn't know he was running for president yet, it was okay for him to speak publicly about violating women and it shouldn't be held against him.

Second of all, 10 years ago? Is that really that long of an amount of time for you? I mean, I'm 27 and the bad things I did as a teenager still weigh on my conscience, even though the bad things I did back then are minor teenager drama things, not anything like Trump.

News flash: Trump hasn't changed. You don't even have to look past his response to when this was dug up to find that out. He called it "locker-room banter". That kind of utter disregard shows exactly how much he HASN'T changed. And I mean, he was obvious misogynistic during the election long before this. He hasn't changed. And no way would I ever trust a man like that to change.

[Tank]

You peeps don't comprehend very well. Or read what I said.
One way, your way.
Davin, your opinion is garbage to me. I'm done here.

Shame. I like looking at both sides of the coin with somebody who can be bothered to make the effort.
Would you change anything about Trump if you could?

I do to Tank. That's why I came here. But I can't get one person to simply say  You know what, we are just different people from different walks of life and I can respect that.
Zero give. It's seems it's my way is the only way and everybody else is a fucking red neck, idiot, racist, womanizer.
Simply because they are too ignorant to understand there are people in this world who operate differently. And that it's ok.

I'm talking to Asmo in another thread and I can tell he doesn't understand the US gun culture. That's perfectly fine, and I think he understands that it's just a different mindset I guess, nothing bad or wrong, just different.

I suppose all types hear what they want to hear and filter out the rest.

[Steeler]

He said that 10 years ago. I don't think he knew he would be president then.

First of all, what does that second sentence even mean. It sounds like you're saying that because he didn't know he was running for president yet, it was okay for him to speak publicly about violating women and it shouldn't be held against him.

Second of all, 10 years ago? Is that really that long of an amount of time for you? I mean, I'm 27 and the bad things I did as a teenager still weigh on my conscience, even though the bad things I did back then are minor teenager drama things, not anything like Trump.

News flash: Trump hasn't changed. You don't even have to look past his response to when this was dug up to find that out. He called it "locker-room banter". That kind of utter disregard shows exactly how much he HASN'T changed. And I mean, he was obvious misogynistic during the election long before this. He hasn't changed. And no way would I ever trust a man like that to change.

Sorry, I thought you were saying that he shouldn't say those things add president.
You can't trust him because of sexual stiff. I can't trust Hillary because of illegal activities while in office.

[Magdalena]

I would like to say something about this.

I do to Tank. That's why I came here. But I can't get one person to simply say  You know what, we are just different people from different walks of life and I can respect that.

This is where it gets funny because your new president, the one you voted for, doesn't agree with you on that.

Zero give. It's seems it's my way is the only way and everybody else is a fucking red neck, idiot, racist, womanizer.

Yes, it sounds like Trump, doesn't it? Trump's way is the only way and everyone else is a fucking rapist, a drug dealer, a terrorist, or a bitch.

Simply because they are too ignorant to understand there are people in this world who operate differently. And that it's ok.

So why did you vote for Trump if he disagrees with you? He doesn't think it's ok if there are people who operate differently. "Those people" should not enter the USA, and "those people" who operate differently, who live in the USA, should be kicked out of the country.

You are just like him, so you are safe. Those of us who "operate differently" and are not orange, will be "rounded up and will be deported in a humane way." --His words.

[Steeler]

I would like to say something about this.

I do to Tank. That's why I came here. But I can't get one person to simply say  You know what, we are just different people from different walks of life and I can respect that.

This is where it gets funny because your new president, the one you voted for, doesn't agree with you on that.

Zero give. It's seems it's my way is the only way and everybody else is a fucking red neck, idiot, racist, womanizer.

Yes, it sounds like Trump, doesn't it? Trump's way is the only way and everyone else is a fucking rapist, a drug dealer, a terrorist, or a bitch.

Simply because they are too ignorant to understand there are people in this world who operate differently. And that it's ok.

So why did you vote for Trump if he disagrees with you? He doesn't think it's ok if there are people who operate differently. "Those people" should not enter the USA, and "those people" who operate differently, who live in the USA, should be kicked out of the country.

You are just like him, so you are safe. Those of us who "operate differently" and are not orange, will be "rounded up and will be deported in a humane way." --His words.

No, I'm talking about dialog. People entering the country illegally arguably do harm to the country.
I'm talking more of opinions, or culture, not coming here illegally to milk our system.

[Sandra Craft]

Pasta and Cats, I hear it, but I don't get the racist thing.
I haven't seen anything about his past that supports him being a racist. So what if a group endorses him. Did he contact them first asking for endorsement? I haven't seen evidence of that.
Hillary's super predator comments are more racist than anything I've heard him say.

He didn't reject those endorsements either -- in fact he said he didn't know enough about the KKK to reject their endorsement.  As far as things supporting his being a racist, here are a few: Here are 13 Examples of Donald Trump Being Racist

As to Clinton's super-predator remark, I looked it up.  She was talking about violent gangs and I agree with her on that one.

[Magdalena]

I would like to say something about this.

I do to Tank. That's why I came here. But I can't get one person to simply say  You know what, we are just different people from different walks of life and I can respect that.

This is where it gets funny because your new president, the one you voted for, doesn't agree with you on that.

Zero give. It's seems it's my way is the only way and everybody else is a fucking red neck, idiot, racist, womanizer.

Yes, it sounds like Trump, doesn't it? Trump's way is the only way and everyone else is a fucking rapist, a drug dealer, a terrorist, or a bitch.

Simply because they are too ignorant to understand there are people in this world who operate differently. And that it's ok.

So why did you vote for Trump if he disagrees with you? He doesn't think it's ok if there are people who operate differently. "Those people" should not enter the USA, and "those people" who operate differently, who live in the USA, should be kicked out of the country.

You are just like him, so you are safe. Those of us who "operate differently" and are not orange, will be "rounded up and will be deported in a humane way." --His words.

No, I'm talking about dialog. People entering the country illegally arguably do harm to the country.
I'm talking more of opinions, or culture, not coming here illegally to milk our system.

People entering the country illegally come to work and pay more taxes than Trump ever has and ever will. The government gives them a social security number so that they can report their taxes every fucking single year. Yes, the government wants their work and their taxes, punctually, but they can't become legal residents because, well... "They don't exist. All they do is take our jobs and apply for welfare." Wait! Which one is it?
(For your information, undocumented people don't qualify for welfare and food stamps, so let that one go.) We work and pay taxes.

Your president, and mine, on the other hand, he came from I don't know where and he did milk the system. He found "an opportunity" to not have to pay taxes, and he took advantage of it. But he's orange, so it's OK.

Edit:
It's right here if you don't believe me:
General ITIN Information
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/general-itin-information
From the IRS.

[Arturo]

I mean ok, we "reject other people who operate differently". Maybe you just missed the point that we are "operating" with regards to probing reality and drawing conclusions from that. At least some of us. It's not rocket science (or at least this election may prove it to be so) that Donald says and does things that are what we say he is. It's ok if you disagree with our judgement, but take one look at any of the guy's speeches and you see evidence for observations.

[Steeler]

Some illegals pay taxes, not denying that. Many don't.
As far as them not being able to get welfare, not true.
   https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households&ved=0ahUKEwjzpZeci53QAhUKNiYKHWgoBJsQFggjMAI&usg=AFQjCNFck7pTpSCfI-4-Dh1AgH1Xtp87mw&sig2=9zGEWuc_LKVzuW1_4yT1vw 

[Arturo]

I don't see anything about them being rapists.

EDIT: Alright so you voted for the one who confirmed your beliefs, I get it. I don't mean to be rude or disrespectful, it just seems mad to me that you went with a guy who says things so far out of line just to perpetuate your ideals; no matter how jaded he took them.

[Steeler]

A couple personal observations with the immigration thing.
The company I work for does work for a few landscaping companies. One of those companies employees 20 something illegals. They are paid cash, as contracted work. This info came straight from the owner of the company. He straight up told me only 1 is legal, the rest cash their checks and send half of it back to Mexico to family.
Big deal, I don't really care.
This is the one that bothers me. My family physician is also a reserve police officer for a small city not far from me. He was also on the board of the local hospital.
Back in the early 2000's they had a massive influx of Mexicans to town. In a very short period the local police force went from 5 officers/2 cars, to 10 cars/can't remember the exact number of officers. He claims it was a direct result of the higher crime rate in the Mexican area.
The hospital went under around the time of the economy taking a dump in the late 2000's. According to him, the biggest factor in the closing was the increase in unpaid care from the immigrants.
One more quicky. I have a friend who immigrated from Bosnia who owns a trucking company. He has owned the business fire several years but claims he hasn't paid a dime in taxes due to a loophole. I can't remember the exact details but something to do with having a grace period of a couple years to help immigrants get on their feet. All he has to do is change the name of the company when the period is up, and recycle.
Good for him, totally legal. He'd fit in nicely here, big time liberal atheist.