The cycle

[bicycle]

Troll

[Whitney]

okay, good point, can you define yourself? please be complete in your definition, otherwise I will not believe you exist...

I could define myself as a homo sapiens of the Caucasian female variety then go further to describe my unique characteristics which set me apart from other homo sapiens.  I'm not going to describe myself in the level of detail necessary to set me apart from all other people on the earth on the internet since I value what little privacy I have left from being so open online.

Have you bothered thinking about this much because it took me a whole two seconds to start defining myself.

[bicycle]

okay, good point, can you define yourself? please be complete in your definition, otherwise I will not believe you exist...

I could define myself as a homo sapiens of the Caucasian female variety then go further to describe my unique characteristics which set me apart from other homo sapiens.  I'm not going to describe myself in the level of detail necessary to set me apart from all other people on the earth on the internet since I value what little privacy I have left from being so open online.

Have you bothered thinking about this much because it took me a whole two seconds to start defining myself.

Ya, you basically proved my point, that God cannot be defined as much as yourself cannot be defined...you still haven't defined yourself and you never will.

Edit:

I do not believe in things that aren't supported by evidence...that includes both religion and god.

The very fact that you even admit to not knowing how to define god is reason enough to not claim to have a belief in it...you can't believe in what you can't define; you have to at least have some idea of what it is and how it differs from other ideas.

That also includes yourself, you cannot completely define yourself. religion can easily be defined: 1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods. 2. Details of belief as taught or discussed.

There is no evidence that OJ killed his wife either, guess it never happened  evidence for God existing would mean there would be no belief in God, just fact...

[Whitney]

Ya, you basically proved my point, that God cannot be defined as much as yourself cannot be defined...you still haven't defined yourself and you never will.

Frankly I don't care if you don't understand how definitions work.  I'm certainly not going to define myself in great detail on a public forum.  If I believed in a god, however, I would be able to define what it was that I think a god is to the extent necessary for someone to decide if they also believe in it.

If your point is you believe in something that even you don't know how to describe then I'll just assume you like the word god yet don't know what one is...that's your prerogative.

[bicycle]

Ya, you basically proved my point, that God cannot be defined as much as yourself cannot be defined...you still haven't defined yourself and you never will.

Frankly I don't care if you don't understand how definitions work.  I'm certainly not going to define myself in great detail on a public forum.  If I believed in a god, however, I would be able to define what it was that I think a god is to the extent necessary for someone to decide if they also believe in it.

If your point is you believe in something that even you don't know how to describe then I'll just assume you like the word god yet don't know what one is...that's your prerogative.

I can describe God, but no I cannot define God just like nothing can define me...You can describe yourself all you want, and I don't care if you don't know how describing works, you certainly never defined yourself, sorry admin nice try though...

[Whitney]

I suggest that you correct your attitude because you are not going to be allowed to stick around much longer if you are going to troll by pretending that words like define and describe have different meanings.

[bicycle]

I suggest that you correct your attitude because you are not going to be allowed to stick around much longer if you are going to troll by pretending that words like define and describe have different meanings.

well let me defend myself at least,

def·i·ni·tion/ˌdefəˈniSHən/Noun
1. A statement of the exact meaning of a word, esp. in a dictionary.
2. An exact statement or description of the nature, scope, or meaning of something.

de·scrip·tion/diˈskripSHən/Noun
1. A spoken or written representation or account of a person, object, or event: "people who had seen him were able to give a description".
2. The action of giving such a representation or account.

Do you see the difference?
EDit:
If it will make you happy I will "define" God: The ultimate perspective; Reasoning for existence; the force; time+energy; etc. etc. you could put Kharma in there if you want...

[xSilverPhinx]

What are your basis for believing in god if you can't adequelty define him?

If it will make you happy I will "define" God: The ultimate perspective; Reasoning for existence; the force; time+energy; etc. etc. you could put Kharma in there if you want...

Um...why worship the ultimate perspective; reasoning for existence; the force; time+energy; Kharma etc.

(though I do like karma )

[bicycle]

What are your basis for believing in god if you can't adequelty define him?

My response to this, has been, you can't adequately define yourself, so why would you be able to do it to God? The truth is, there is a difference in describing something and defining it. Definitions are for words...

Um...why worship the ultimate perspective; reasoning for existence; the force; time+energy; Kharma etc.

Worship is also a word that probably a lot of people don't like, why not try 'respect' do you respect Karma?

[xSilverPhinx]

What are your basis for believing in god if you can't adequelty define him?

My response to this, has been, you can't adequately define yourself, so why would you be able to do it to God? The truth is, there is a difference in describing something and defining it. Definitions are for words...

I don't need to define myself to you to show you that I exist. Do you see my writing this post as evidence for my existence? Is it in any way ambiguous?

Worship is also a word that probably a lot of people don't like, why not try 'respect' do you respect Karma?

I like the concept, but don't see it as anything supernatural. It's more a probabilistic consequence. If you keep doing bad things, chances are they will bite you in the future. Live by the sword, die by the sword...that sort of thing.

[Sweetdeath]

I feel as if you are making us all suffer, and your mutiple posts are very borderline trolling. I feel as if your preaching and generalizing athiests without knowing a single thing about the word.

[bicycle]

I feel as if you are making us all suffer, and your mutiple posts are very borderline trolling. I feel as if your preaching and generalizing athiests without knowing a single thing about the word.

Okay, sorry for preaching, I'm getting used to this board just give me a break, I'm just debating, and have had some sarcasm and snide remarks thrown at me so don't blame me...

I don't need to define myself to you to show you that I exist.

Then why did I have to define God?

I like the concept, but don't see it as anything supernatural. It's more a probabilistic consequence. If you keep doing bad things, chances are they will bite you in the future. Live by the sword, die by the sword...that sort of thing.

Really? So you can believe in it because you like it? How can you prove karma exists?

[Whitney]

Do you see the difference?

no, what i do see is that you are able to mine dictionaries in order to present the false appearance that there is a marked difference between two words.  Aside from a definition being more formal in usage there is no practical difference between the two words.  Are you done playing with semantics?

[bicycle]

Descriptions are for someone or something, Definitions are for words.

[Gawen]

Okay, sorry for preaching, I'm getting used to this board just give me a break, I'm just debating, and have had some sarcasm and snide remarks thrown at me so don't blame me...

Well, you did say you wanted to play with the big boys.

Then why did I have to define God?

Because one cannot debate about the gods without defining them. As for defining ourselves, that is not within the realm of this forum. Because you cannot define god and claiming that we cannot define ourselves sets up several logical fallacies.

In a debate, when one side makes assertions, it is expected of them to provide evidence of the assertions. You have not done this. This makes me come to two conclusions - either your debating skills are rudimentary, or you come here to purposefully set up logical fallacies to hide behind.

You can assuage this by debating properly. Doing this might allow you to stay here longer as well...*shrugs*