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Member Retention.
« on: June 19, 2010, 08:53:17 AM »
Should we, the forum members, attempt to improve the retention rate of new members?
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2010, 03:02:08 PM »
How would you suggest we do that?
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2010, 03:08:22 PM »
Try to engage with noobies. Ask them open questions about their likes and dislikes. Respond to their posts in a way that encourages replies. Make sure you say hi to all introduction posts. Short of offering bribes there is not a lot else you can do.

But is retention something that should be something that I (we) should worry about? This forum has outlasted many so is it a case of 'If it works don't fix it!'
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 03:19:08 PM »
Quote from: "Tank"
Try to engage with noobies. Ask them open questions about their likes and dislikes. Respond to their posts in a way that encourages replies. Make sure you say hi to all introduction posts. Short of offering bribes there is not a lot else you can do.

But is retention something that should be something that I (we) should worry about? This forum has outlasted many so is it a case of 'If it works don't fix it!'

Getting greetings was very nice, actually.  And trying to draw people out can work to a point, you just have to be careful not to come across as too invasve...it could be a difficult balance, I would think.  But trying to keep people engaged and interested surely couldn't be a bad thing, could it?  One of the main things is probably just that everyone should continue to actively engage in coming up with compelling thread topics. Best way to keep people interested, I would think - attraction rather than promotion.
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2010, 03:35:12 PM »
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Try to engage with noobies. Ask them open questions about their likes and dislikes. Respond to their posts in a way that encourages replies. Make sure you say hi to all introduction posts. Short of offering bribes there is not a lot else you can do.

But is retention something that should be something that I (we) should worry about? This forum has outlasted many so is it a case of 'If it works don't fix it!'

Getting greetings was very nice, actually.  And trying to draw people out can work to a point, you just have to be careful not to come across as too invasve...it could be a difficult balance, I would think.
Agreed. We don't want to come over all 'Love bombing'. A polite hello would be good in the introduction thread.


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But trying to keep people engaged and interested surely couldn't be a bad thing, could it?  
Definitely a good thing.

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One of the main things is probably just that everyone should continue to actively engage in coming up with compelling thread topics. Best way to keep people interested, I would think - attraction rather than promotion.
Now that's a good thought. I wonder if we could sort threads by number of replies and bump the more popular one's for the noobs if they go fallow.

I've created this 'boiler plate' to help people find there way around. If you have particular 'pet threads' why not invite contribution to those by creating your own 'boiler plate'?

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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2010, 03:50:42 PM »
Quote from: "Tank"
I've created this 'boiler plate' to help people find there way around. If you have particular 'pet threads' why not invite contribution to those by creating your own 'boiler plate'?

Huh.  That's a good idea...I'll have to give it some thought.  Thanks!
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2010, 04:20:46 PM »
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Quote from: "Tank"
I've created this 'boiler plate' to help people find there way around. If you have particular 'pet threads' why not invite contribution to those by creating your own 'boiler plate'?

Huh.  That's a good idea...I'll have to give it some thought.  Thanks!
I don't know what the policy is but maybe adding links to personal blog would be acceptable?
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 06:00:10 PM »
There is a lot of atheist sites to be found, and I would imagine that it's pretty common to sign on to one and then realize it's not a good fit for you. I've done that, joined an atheist discussion for only to find that it was just a place where people, mostly young people addressing each other as "dude," would go to talk about how silly Christians are, no real discussion, just a great deal of overly emotional anti-religion ranting.

I like it here because people actually engage in discussion and debate, and there's a real good mix of individuals here. It's a great site, this.

Some people just want to chit-chat with other atheists, which is fine but that's not really what this place is about in my view.
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 06:10:15 PM »
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There is a lot of atheist sites to be found, and I would imagine that it's pretty common to sign on to one and then realize it's not a good fit for you. I've done that, joined an atheist discussion for only to find that it was just a place where people, mostly young people addressing each other as "dude," would go to talk about how silly Christians are, no real discussion, just a great deal of overly emotional anti-religion ranting.

I like it here because people actually engage in discussion and debate, and there's a real good mix of individuals here. It's a great site, this.

Some people just want to chit-chat with other atheists, which is fine but that's not really what this place is about in my view.
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 06:35:39 PM »
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There is a lot of atheist sites to be found, and I would imagine that it's pretty common to sign on to one and then realize it's not a good fit for you. I've done that, joined an atheist discussion for only to find that it was just a place where people, mostly young people addressing each other as "dude," would go to talk about how silly Christians are, no real discussion, just a great deal of overly emotional anti-religion ranting.

I like it here because people actually engage in discussion and debate, and there's a real good mix of individuals here. It's a great site, this.

Some people just want to chit-chat with other atheists, which is fine but that's not really what this place is about in my view.
Understood. So you're of the opinion that there is a sort of filter to which the people who like this place 'stick'.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 06:45:19 PM »
Hey I stayed and I have poor debate skills  ;)   Have NO like minded people out here to talk with ;)

As for the odd ball trollesque type we see that really have no clue on life the universe and everything.....  Why keep them?
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 07:00:07 PM »
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There is a lot of atheist sites to be found, and I would imagine that it's pretty common to sign on to one and then realize it's not a good fit for you. I've done that, joined an atheist discussion for only to find that it was just a place where people, mostly young people addressing each other as "dude," would go to talk about how silly Christians are, no real discussion, just a great deal of overly emotional anti-religion ranting.

I like it here because people actually engage in discussion and debate, and there's a real good mix of individuals here. It's a great site, this.

Some people just want to chit-chat with other atheists, which is fine but that's not really what this place is about in my view.

Understood. So you're of the opinion that there is a sort of filter to which the people who like this place 'stick'.

Oh, I wouldn't say that exactly, no. But as we know there are as many kinds of atheists as there are, well, atheists, and some places fit some people better than others, that's all I'm saying.
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2010, 12:02:35 AM »
I like to think of HAF as being laid back. It's here when you feel like talking to friends or discussing a topic of interest or when you've got a gem of a story about a fundy or something. Member retention seems more like a marketing thing, as if HAF were a business. Sure, it's good to have folks around, but above all, HAF is just a community. There are times when I take a week or two off, just popping in to make sure there aren't any trolls or spammers. I've seen other forums get too aggressive in an attempt to grow the forum or force evolution on it, and it never ends well. Just ask Hitler about social darwimism!  :crazy:
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2010, 12:08:45 AM »
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I like to think of HAF as being laid back. It's here when you feel like talking to friends or discussing a topic of interest or when you've got a gem of a story about a fundy or something. Member retention seems more like a marketing thing, as if HAF were a business. Sure, it's good to have folks around, but above all, HAF is just a community. There are times when I take a week or two off, just popping in to make sure there aren't any trolls or spammers. I've seen other forums get too aggressive in an attempt to grow the forum or force evolution on it, and it never ends well. Just ask Hitler about social darwimism!  lol
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Re: Member Retention.
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2010, 08:29:18 AM »
You guys are fine, though, friendly without being obsequious, firm without being rude.  As someone who's recently joined, I think y'all have a good vibe here, and shouldn't change it.

Just sayin'.
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