Constitutional Amendments To Define Marriage Male and Female

[Whitney]

There are currently 2 bills introduced in Congress to define marriage as a union between man and woman. We will be monitoring to see if one makes it out of committee and is voted on. The details for each bill are as follows. We will post both bills on our discussion forums on Facebook.

HR. 1269 Marriage Protection Act of 2009
- Amends the federal judicial code to deny federal courts jurisdiction to hear or decide any question pertaining to the interpretation of, or the validity under the Constitution, of the provision of the Defense of Marriage Act declaring that no state shall be required to give effect to any marriage between persons of the same sex under the laws of any other state.

HR. 37 Proposing Amendment to the Constitution of the US relating to Marriage
- Requires marriage in the United States to consist only of a legal union of a man and a woman.
- Prohibits any federal or state court from having jurisdiction to determine whether the Constitution or any state constitution requires the legal incidents of marriage to be conferred upon any union other than a legal union between one man and one woman.
- Prohibits requiring any state to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other state concerning a union between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage, or as having the legal incidents of marriage, under the laws of such other state.

Source:  http://apps.new.facebook.com/visible_vote/ (might need facebook account to view app)
Links provided by visible vote:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/26/ ... newssearch
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05 ... eferendum/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7393903&page=1

From my understanding of state v federal law, this is completely out of line.  The federal government is not responsible for marriage licenses and shouldn't be making this decision.

[rlrose328]

Agreed... it's amazing what this country is capable of, quite frankly.  To have them claim to be discriminated against and persecuted, then to turn around and do this kind of crap.    

[Kylyssa]

Simply disgusting.

[curiosityandthecat]

Wow, I'm glad I'm leaving the country.  

[PipeBox]

Jesus Barnaby Christ, I didn't realize they could make laws to block the courts from ruling on the lawfulness of other laws.
This thing would be an unstoppable, juggernaut of a sovereign bitch-bill oozing righteous homophobia if it passed.  I can't believe someone had the temerity to introduce this.  If I didn't think congress sucked right now, I would say the person was about to get, ironically, crucified, but now?  It'll still get knocked down (it has to!!), but not with the unfettered contempt it deserves.  Can you imagine if it defined marriage as only between a white man and white woman?  I don't think even Fox will wank over this bill, not publicly anyway, though they might moan about liberals when it's swatted down (and all the time until then and after, too), but anyone who can read what this bill seeks to do ought to be uncomfortable about it, to say the least.

[rlrose328]

Wow, I'm glad I'm leaving the country.  :shake:

[Sophus]

Seriously? Fundies don't have anything better to do?  

[Will]

I guess now that they're out of the White House, the House of Representatives, the Senate, and a majority of Governor's offices it's freed up their time for petty stuff like hating gay people.

The more they put their energy into lost causes like gay marriage, the less likely they are to regain power in 2012 and 2016. In other words, bring it on. After underestimating my opposition on Prop 8, I'm ready for round 2.

[pamelax]

What is the difference between the Mormon idea of marriage and traditional marriage? If you know of another religion that also thinks of marriage outside of the norm, I would be interested in your response as well.

[Whitney]

We got married in the city hall only. Is our marriage still recognized by God? I want to convert to orthodoxy, my husband and i got married in the city hall only and not in the church, and he doesnt want to get married in the church. Is our marriage still recognized by God?

I don't care...I think you have the wrong forum.

[karadan]

How can there be so many retards with the ability to create new laws in the US?

*Sigh*

[Tank]

How can there be so many retards with the ability to create new laws in the US?

*Sigh*

1% of 307,000,000 is  :drool

So one does not need a high percentage of a large number to have a absolute large number. There's probably something in the governmental process that also lets loud stupid people have more than their fair share of power.

[Thumpalumpacus]

How can there be so many retards with the ability to create new laws in the US?

*Sigh*

1% of 307,000,000 is  :drool

So one does not need a high percentage of a large number to have a absolute large number. There's probably something in the governmental process that also lets loud stupid people have more than their fair share of power.

Obviously their brains demand less oxygen, which allows for a more-efficient bellow.

[DropLogic]

I can't believe this is even a discussion in 2010.  I thought we went over this already in the 50's.  Of any group of minorities, black people should be empathizing with a persecuted group of people the most...yet they are the ones who are ultimately responsible for the failure of prop 8.  

is going, eh?

[Thumpalumpacus]

I can't believe this is even a discussion in 2010.  I thought we went over this already in the 50's.  Of any group of minorities, black people should be empathizing with a persecuted group of people the most...yet they are the ones who are ultimately responsible for the failure of prop 8.  

is going, eh?

Well, let's face it, we obviously have no more important thing to deal with, right?