Pregnant Coach/Teacher Fired

[Sweetdeath]

Oh geez, this is disgustingly sexist, but why am i not surprised?

Once again, a human right is trampled on by religious hypocrits.

[Whitney]

Apparently female teachers use to have to hide their pregnancy even if they were married.  I had a biology teacher in middle school who told us stories about how horrible her pregnancy was and how she had to try to hide it while teaching.  I was in like the 5th or 6th grade at the time...whatever grade they start sex ed (I know it was lower than 8th grade).  So, that was a teacher who is probably in her 60s now as I remember her looking about the same age as my parents (though since everyone looks old to kids, she could be younger).  This was in Oklahoma at a private school...not a religious one.

Anyway...I agree that it is horrible for the holier than thou groups to kick a pregnant woman to the curb just because she is not married...it would be better to make sure she had a job to provide for the coming baby.

[Sweetdeath]

Crap Whitney, i just realized she now has no job, with a baby on the way. *fumes*

I cannot believe this is legal. It really is mind boggling.

[Whitney]

maybe unwed mothers will be the next protected group.


At least there are gov programs she can use to pay for the pregnancy and baby supplies.....ironic considering that most who are against unwed mothers and against abortions also are against gov care for those mothers.

[Sweetdeath]

I just cant fathom what harm she's doing. Let her be! >___<
The world isn't so damn black/white. Not to  mention, how does being married make a damn difference in raising a child?

Ugh, sorry. Lol! I forgot i am preaching to their choir. XD you guys get my feelings of anger.

[xSilverPhinx]

I know that here in Brazil employers are obligated to pay maternity leave for new mothers. I don't know if that's the case in the US...correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming it is.

When my mother was hiring for a business she was opening, employees told her that some commercial jobs aren't even open to women in their fertile age because they don't want to pay maternity leaves. Just saying there could be other hidden reasons why people do things, and use religion as a convenient excuse.

Again, it depends on how the contract is worded I guess. Though it is morally questionable if she signed it, she consented. I do hope this story does turn out to be scandalous though, to bring it into focus.

[Sweetdeath]

I know that here in Brazil employers are obligated to pay maternity leave for new mothers. I don't know if that's the case in the US...correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming it is.

When my mother was hiring for a business she was opening, employees told her that some commercial jobs aren't even open to women in their fertile age because they don't want to pay maternity leaves. Just saying there could be other hidden reasons why people do things, and use religion as a convenient excuse.

Again, it depends on how the contract is worded I guess. Though it is morally questionable if she signed it, she consented. I do hope this story does turn out to be scandalous though, to bring it into focus.

There's already so many discriminations against women with the wage gap. Jobs shouldnt assume every woman is going to get pregnant. Not to mention, there is Paternity leave as well, so all the "blame" shouldnt just be on the woman!!

Some women dont want kids, some cant have kids, some wont. How is a woman's vagina equal to how well she can do her job?  Gundam.. This angers me.

[xSilverPhinx]

I know that here in Brazil employers are obligated to pay maternity leave for new mothers. I don't know if that's the case in the US...correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming it is.

When my mother was hiring for a business she was opening, employees told her that some commercial jobs aren't even open to women in their fertile age because they don't want to pay maternity leaves. Just saying there could be other hidden reasons why people do things, and use religion as a convenient excuse.

Again, it depends on how the contract is worded I guess. Though it is morally questionable if she signed it, she consented. I do hope this story does turn out to be scandalous though, to bring it into focus.

There's already so many discriminations against women with the wage gap. Jobs shouldnt assume every woman is going to get pregnant. Not to mention, there is Paternity leave as well, so all the "blame" shouldnt just be on the woman!!

Some women dont want kids, some cant have kids, some wont. How is a woman's vagina equal to how well she can do her job?  Gundam.. This angers me.

I'm not saying that it's a common occurance (definitely not as visible as the differences in wages), mostly it's what my mother's employees would tell us. They were simpler people too, and were usually applying for small businesses who apparently didn't want to pay a few month's salary without the person working there, especially since taxes are absurdly high. Just a cold and rational business decision.

I'm actually really curious to know what was in that clause which justified her getting fired over her pregnancy and if it was really more morality-police driven or business. ??? I'm skeptical that it was simply a moral clause, but then again so much absurdity happens in this world..

[ThinkAnarchy]

I sometimes wonder how different groups of Christians can outwardly derive their morals from the same book and ideology with such completely different results. You have this group, with their ridiculous contract, and you have another that runs a battered women's shelter that doesn't discriminate based on sexual preference, sex, income, or geographical location. If you're being battered by your spouse, that's all they need to know to help.

They all seem to derive their reasoning from the same source material though and it kind of baffles me.

[ThinkAnarchy]

I'm not saying that it's a common occurance (definitely not as visible as the differences in wages), mostly it's what my mother's employees would tell us. They were simpler people too, and were usually applying for small businesses who apparently didn't want to pay a few month's salary without the person working there, especially since taxes are absurdly high. Just a cold and rational business decision.

I'm actually really curious to know what was in that clause which justified her getting fired over her pregnancy and if it was really more morality-police driven or business. ??? I'm skeptical that it was simply a moral clause, but then again so much absurdity happens in this world..

In the U.S. I don't think they are required to pay women for maternity leave, but most good businesses do. I believe they simply need to give you a certain amount of time off to give birth and recover. So I don't think it was finically motivated, unless there is a state law in Texas that requires paid leave, which I doubt.

[Ali]

It amazes me that (some) Christians think that what the school is doing is the moral thing to protect their children.  To me, religion completely aside, a school that fires a woman for getting pregnant out of wedlock is setting the example for their children that it's acceptable to be hateful, judgmental, unforgiving, and discriminatory, as well as that it's perfectly acceptable to leave a pregnant woman without an income or healthcare.  Like the very opposite of moral to me.

[DeterminedJuliet]

It amazes me that (some) Christians think that what the school is doing is the moral thing to protect their children.  To me, religion completely aside, a school that fires a woman for getting pregnant out of wedlock is setting the example for their children that it's acceptable to be hateful, judgmental, unforgiving, and discriminatory, as well as that it's perfectly acceptable to leave a pregnant woman without an income or healthcare.  Like the very opposite of moral to me.

It's sort of weird, but this kind of morality is all about the optics. An un-wed pregnant woman standing in front of kids everyday looks bad to them. So it's immoral.  If she's out of a job, they don't care because she becomes invisible and the moral dilemma, in their mind, evaporates (and it is, after all, so easy to blame her for this situation).

People who take these kind stances really feel that if they allow an issue to be visible, then they are "condoning" it. It reminds me of a safe-injection site debate that's raging in Ottawa right now. A lot of people are crying "not in my city" because the thought of giving drug addicts a safe place is paramount to "condoning" their behaviour. Personally, I think it's because they want to try and keep drug abuse as invisible as possible and they don't give a rat's ass about actually helping the people.

[Sweetdeath]

It amazes me that (some) Christians think that what the school is doing is the moral thing to protect their children.  To me, religion completely aside, a school that fires a woman for getting pregnant out of wedlock is setting the example for their children that it's acceptable to be hateful, judgmental, unforgiving, and discriminatory, as well as that it's perfectly acceptable to leave a pregnant woman without an income or healthcare.  Like the very opposite of moral to me.

Exactly the reason children should be educated and taught that religion is a myth.