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Started by AnimatedDirt, January 13, 2012, 08:07:28 PM

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Sweetdeath

Lazy Sunday? Hehe, maybe god pulled a ham string?

Well, i'm not sure why  you have been so vague lately, Animated dirt. o_o
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

McQ

Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 18, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
Lazy Sunday? Hehe, maybe god pulled a ham string?


;D

That's funny, actually. I like it. I'm now picturing an entire sequence of events leading up to god pulling a hammy: going for a layup, 100 million meter dash without warming up properly, the possibilities are endless.

Elvis didn't do no drugs!
--Penn Jillette

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 18, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
Lazy Sunday? Hehe, maybe god pulled a ham string?

Well, i'm not sure why  you have been so vague lately, Animated dirt. o_o

Vague here.  I'm not interested in this thread for reasons Ateo pointed out.  Are you wanting more of my opinions/beliefs on the matter out of curiosity or to simply make fun of now or later?  The fact is, the knowledge that *you seem to seek is all there for the taking...but

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 18, 2012, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 18, 2012, 03:38:54 AM
I think we're supposed to be doing our own reseach, in order to avoid being classed as intellectually lazy atheists.  Frankly, I'll accept the label because I really don't care enough -- all the "evidence" I've read to this point has struck me as weak and circular, and I've got other books calling my name.
This. When christians tell atheists to read the bible, I'm wondering why I would possibly waste my time. Every passage I've read seems like pretentious bullshit, and that's enough for me to go on. Besides, there are way too many fascinating books out there waiting to be read to waste one's time reading 2000 year old drivel.
From this thread.

...it's all just pretentious bullshit.  

Sweetdeath

Quote from: McQ on January 18, 2012, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 18, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
Lazy Sunday? Hehe, maybe god pulled a ham string?


;D

That's funny, actually. I like it. I'm now picturing an entire sequence of events leading up to god pulling a hammy: going for a layup, 100 million meter dash without warming up properly, the possibilities are endless.



I bet he/she has to crack their knuckles a lot. XD Do some lunges.

Do you have a beef with me or something, AD? You have been snide and condisending in various   threads. o_o
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

Ali

It's possible that I annoyed AD to the point of putting him into a snit.  I'm not saying that I did or didn't, only that it's possible....

Sweetdeath

I'm not sure. He's been giving me a weird response on various threads, including this one. . I'm atheist, like the majority on this forum.  I ask for evidence aside from the bible. If he cant provide it, that isn't my problem really.
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 18, 2012, 08:37:37 PM
Do you have a beef with me or something, AD? You have been snide and condisending in various   threads. o_o

Not really.  Just thinking that maybe you're not really seeking what I believe, but to find what you believe is fodder to throw back as a joke and to condescend my beliefs.  It's already well known how the typical Atheist here at HAF feels about Christians, but when I try and answer questions to the best of my ability, I expect at least a smidge of respect.  There are few here that if they don't have that smidge of respect, at least seem to fake it.  I believe they really do.

I don't expect much...I am at an Atheist forum...in the way of respect, but I thought a smidge wasn't too much to ask.

I am human and do not think I am better than the Atheist.  I have a few friends that are and as I've mentioned before, they sometimes live a better "Christian" life than even I do.

So when I get worked up, please don't fault me for doing so.  I have tried to control my emotions as I like being here at HAF.  The people on the whole are good and I like them regardless of their thoughts about me as a Christian or my beliefs.

@ Ali...no you haven't annoyed me at all.  On the contrary.  At the moment, you're the only one that seems to be genuinely interested in the beliefs I hold and why as evidenced on the thread about the mole rat.

Heisenberg

Quote from: AnimatedDirt on January 18, 2012, 08:12:26 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 18, 2012, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 18, 2012, 03:38:54 AM
I think we're supposed to be doing our own reseach, in order to avoid being classed as intellectually lazy atheists.  Frankly, I'll accept the label because I really don't care enough -- all the "evidence" I've read to this point has struck me as weak and circular, and I've got other books calling my name.
This. When christians tell atheists to read the bible, I'm wondering why I would possibly waste my time. Every passage I've read seems like pretentious bullshit, and that's enough for me to go on. Besides, there are way too many fascinating books out there waiting to be read to waste one's time reading 2000 year old drivel.
From this thread.

...it's all just pretentious bullshit.  

Doesn't mean I'm not willing to listen, it just means I'm not willing to read the book cover to cover. If you do indeed have an excellent answer as you say then please, I'm all ears. Forgive me if I expect this excellent answer of yours to be in cryptic, ambiguous wording that will ultimately raise more questions than it answers.

If you feel that way, why do you even post here? If another poster who didn't consider the bible pretentious bullshit asked, would you have answered their question? The asker of the question hardly seems relevant seeing as how we are on a discussion board and all.

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"No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low"-John Lennon

McQ

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 18, 2012, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on January 18, 2012, 08:12:26 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 18, 2012, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on January 18, 2012, 03:38:54 AM
I think we're supposed to be doing our own reseach, in order to avoid being classed as intellectually lazy atheists.  Frankly, I'll accept the label because I really don't care enough -- all the "evidence" I've read to this point has struck me as weak and circular, and I've got other books calling my name.
This. When christians tell atheists to read the bible, I'm wondering why I would possibly waste my time. Every passage I've read seems like pretentious bullshit, and that's enough for me to go on. Besides, there are way too many fascinating books out there waiting to be read to waste one's time reading 2000 year old drivel.
From this thread.

...it's all just pretentious bullshit.  

Doesn't mean I'm not willing to listen, it just means I'm not willing to read the book cover to cover. If you do indeed have an excellent answer as you say then please, I'm all ears. Forgive me if I expect this excellent answer of yours to be in cryptic, ambiguous wording that will ultimately raise more questions than it answers.

If you feel that way, why do you even post here? If another poster who didn't consider the bible pretentious bullshit asked, would you have answered their question? The asker of the question hardly seems relevant seeing as how we are on a discussion board and all.

You-->


Come on. Knock this stuff off.
Elvis didn't do no drugs!
--Penn Jillette

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 18, 2012, 09:25:29 PM
Doesn't mean I'm not willing to listen, it just means I'm not willing to read the book cover to cover.
What is amazing is that you don't have to.  One word.  Internet.  There are many sources that present what the bible teaches in much less wording than reading the bible from cover to cover.
Quote from: HeisenbergIf you do indeed have an excellent answer as you say then please, I'm all ears. Forgive me if I expect this excellent answer of yours to be in cryptic, ambiguous wording that will ultimately raise more questions than it answers.
I wouldn't want to give it knowing you're just going to spout "bullshit" without even knowing what I'm talking about.  We already know you don't believe the bible, so what interest do you have?  Are you one that finds the bible interesting and really wants to learn it inside and out as in those that find Lord of the Rings so facinating that they delve into it fully to understand the story even if they understand the story is fiction?  I've given the example for this many times...I hardly think I have to do it again.

Quote from: HeisenbergIf you feel that way, why do you even post here?
Because there might be some that really want to know, at least the "truth" as the bible teaches even if they don't believe the bible.   That...and a lot of what Atheism believes as true of the bible is really just things blown out of proportion and so the worst is believed.  I'd like to think I can help in finding the "truth" and then *you, the Atheist, is free to make fun of that "truth" rather than stuff that isn't "real"
Quote from: HeisenbergIf another poster who didn't consider the bible pretentious bullshit asked, would you have answered their question? The asker of the question hardly seems relevant seeing as how we are on a discussion board and all.
Given what I know about your feelings now, I wouldn't waste my time on your questions.

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Sorry. I can't view this image.  I gather it's just another funny that belittles me.  Maybe it is for the Image thread instead?

Heisenberg

You do realize that every atheist on here rejects the bible as a holy book right? Because that's all you know about my feelings about it. Maybe you got your panties in a bunch when I referred to it as pretentious bullshit, get over it. My feelings on the bible are no different than most anybody else on this forum, I just use harsher words to describe it.

Anyway, since you won't answer the question I assume that you have no answer or you recognize that your answer is weak. I mean it's pretty simple: why would an omniscient and omnipotent being with infinite time and resources take 6 days to do anything while also requiring one to rest? I am genuinely curious, as I have wracked my brain and can't come up with a logical reason that this would be so.
"No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low"-John Lennon

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 18, 2012, 09:53:15 PM
You do realize that every atheist on here rejects the bible as a holy book right? Because that's all you know about my feelings about it. Maybe you got your panties in a bunch when I referred to it as pretentious bullshit, get over it. My feelings on the bible are no different than most anybody else on this forum, I just use harsher words to describe it.
Maybe EVERY one feels that way.  Not all would just say so when asking questions on the subject.  Is that rude to do so or am I just an idiot?

Quote from: HeisenbergAnyway, since you won't answer the question I assume that you have no answer or you recognize that your answer is weak. I mean it's pretty simple: why would an omniscient and omnipotent being with infinite time and resources take 6 days to do anything while also requiring one to rest? I am genuinely curious, as I have wracked my brain and can't come up with a logical reason that this would be so.
You've wracked your brain?  Apparently it is flawed...so why even try?

Who says the reason is logical as you see logic?

McQ

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 18, 2012, 09:53:15 PM
You do realize that every atheist on here rejects the bible as a holy book right? Because that's all you know about my feelings about it. Maybe you got your panties in a bunch when I referred to it as pretentious bullshit, get over it. My feelings on the bible are no different than most anybody else on this forum, I just use harsher words to describe it.

Anyway, since you won't answer the question I assume that you have no answer or you recognize that your answer is weak. I mean it's pretty simple: why would an omniscient and omnipotent being with infinite time and resources take 6 days to do anything while also requiring one to rest? I am genuinely curious, as I have wracked my brain and can't come up with a logical reason that this would be so.

Is it the day, or what? Second warning to a forum member in five minutes. Refrain from personal attacks. I just warned you about it in your previous post. This is your first official warning.
Elvis didn't do no drugs!
--Penn Jillette

Genericguy

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Quote from: AnimatedDirt on January 18, 2012, 09:44:47 PM
Because there might be some that really want to know, at least the "truth" as the bible teaches even if they don't believe the bible.   That...and a lot of what Atheism believes as true of the bible is really just things blown out of proportion and so the worst is believed.  I'd like to think I can help in finding the "truth" ...

Funny, I really wanted to know what it was exactly that I got wrong in the other thread. I was born a christian and continued to be a Christian for many years of my life. Even went to private school, church EVERY day, bible study, ect... and was genuinely interested in why you disagreed with my discription of the christian afterlife.

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and then *you, the Atheist, is free to make fun of that "truth"

I hope that's the singular you. Aimed at a specific person.

I'm really interested in how my view on heaven is wrong. If you would like to pm me I would listen to every word with out argument.

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: Genericguy on January 18, 2012, 10:06:07 PM
I hope that's the singular you. Aimed at a specific person.
No.  It was an all-inclusive *you, as in any Atheist.

Quote from: GenericguyI'm really interested in how my view on heaven is wrong. If you would like to pm me I would listen to every word with out argument.
Do you really want to know where you went wrong here?  It's a fundamental error and one that many make and the Atheist loves to throw about.  I'll answer by saying simply, salvation is not gained by following rules, as if it were attainable by oneself, if it were, God needn't have died in the person of Jesus...as the story goes.  Add to that the idea that from death, we are spirits in heaven when clearly the bible and even Jesus show this to be untrue.  I would go further to explain why, but what for if you don't believe it anymore.