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The Bible Summed Up In One Short Sentence

Started by Earthling, October 28, 2011, 07:22:14 PM

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Asmodean

Quote from: Gawen on October 29, 2011, 11:47:28 AM
Well...that was fun!!!
Washed my hands of this thread before the fun was ended, but yes, my evening was quite agreeable yesterday  ;D
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

DeterminedJuliet

"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: Earthling on October 29, 2011, 05:49:51 AM
Quote from: Stevil on October 29, 2011, 03:50:12 AM
So you simply believe in everything you are told that you don't have proof to the contrary on.
Critical thought is seen as a negative to you?

No in answer to both questions. I never believe what I am told, I'm always skeptical, I demand evidence in making a rational decision. Either I'm informed or I am admittedly ignorant or incapable of understanding. I suck at math and grammar (if you haven't noticed). I have very little interest in science because I see it as speculation often abused in the guise of absolute knowledge. Empirical evidence, peer review all of that stuff is a good idea, and I think that science is important so long as it doesn't, in the manner which I describe, become religious in nature.

Critical thought and fairness with an open mind is my way of going about things. I fuck up. I learn from my mistakes.

That's...what science is and does. ???

If what you're talking about is the way that science is taught in schools, you have to realise that schoolchildren are not exactly qualified to judge whether a model is correct or not. Things such as the whole 'teach creationism in science classand let them make up their own minds' is flawed, because a) they distort evolutionary theory anyways and teach an absurd caricature and b) creationism is not science, is based on what is believed to absolute knowledge and not open to sceptical inquiry and correction in the light of new evidence.

The facts you call 'absolute' (which, quite frankly, is odd) have been peer-reviewed and come to through the scientific method, which is the best tool for creating models of reality that actually explain vast observations in a cohesive model. It's not up to a school teacher with limited knowledge to tell people that a theory is wrong without being able to show that it's wrong.   

This cartoon describes it very well:



I do agree that people don't really learn how to think in school, but you shouldn't confuse that with what the valid facts that they're taught. 


I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Stevil

Quote from: Earthling on October 29, 2011, 05:49:51 AM
No in answer to both questions. I never believe what I am told, I'm always skeptical, I demand evidence in making a rational decision.
So where is the evidence about all of these gods that you believe in?
You said that Jehovah created us, where is the evidence?

Velma

Quote from: Earthling on October 29, 2011, 05:51:42 AM
Quote from: Velma on October 29, 2011, 05:43:06 AM
I'd like to know your thoughts, Earthling, on why it was such a sacrifice.  Thirty years on earth out of eternity.  A death that while unpleasant, wasn't nearly as prolonged or bad as the deaths of countless others.  Even if, as some theologies teach, he was cut off from his father during the hours he was 'dead,' it was only a few hours out of eternity.  All-in-all, it adds up to a bad weekend, but hardly a 'sacrifice' when he was fully restored to his position in heaven.

The price was perfect blood without sin which he paid in full. The point wasn't how much he suffered.
I know you've been suspended for a week, but I still want to reply to this. 

God needed a human sacrifice?  He couldn't just forgive?
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

Whitney

a better summary:

Guy claiming to be god sacrifices himself to himself in order to save his friends from himself but only if they believe he's not just insane.

Sandra Craft

Quote from: Whitney on October 29, 2011, 11:50:09 PM
a better summary:

Guy claiming to be god sacrifices himself to himself in order to save his friends from himself but only if they believe he's not just insane.

Put that way, it makes the bible sound entirely worthless.
Sandy

  

"Life is short, and it is up to you to make it sweet."  Sarah Louise Delany

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on October 30, 2011, 01:18:52 AM
Quote from: Whitney on October 29, 2011, 11:50:09 PM
a better summary:

Guy claiming to be god sacrifices himself to himself in order to save his friends from himself but only if they believe he's not just insane.

Put that way, it makes the bible sound entirely worthless.


Definitely one of the weirdest ever.
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Heisenberg

I've got the shortest sentence yet... FICTION

Hell it's barely a fragment.
"No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low"-John Lennon

Asmodean

#69
Quote from: Heisenberg on November 01, 2011, 08:59:55 PM
I've got the shortest sentence yet... FICTION

Hell it's barely a fragment.
I can beat it for shortness:

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Too Few Lions

Quote from: Heisenberg on November 01, 2011, 08:59:55 PM
I've got the shortest sentence yet... FICTION

Hell it's barely a fragment.
:D that's perfect! If I worked in a bookstore I'd definitely have to put all the Bibles in the fiction section

Xjeepguy

Quote from: Too Few Lions on November 02, 2011, 01:07:36 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on November 01, 2011, 08:59:55 PM
I've got the shortest sentence yet... FICTION

Hell it's barely a fragment.
:D that's perfect! If I worked in a bookstore I'd definitely have to put all the Bibles in the fiction section

They already have a section for it at my local mall.

If I were re-born 1000 times, it would be as an atheist 1000 times. -Heisenberg

Asmodean

The bibles. They are IN that section, yes..?

Because if so, then Asmodean will save that mall for last on his Burn-a-mall-with-kerosine spree  ;D
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

xSilverPhinx

They're probably in the "absolute Truth" section, along with the Koran, the Bhaghadvat-Gita and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. 
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


DeterminedJuliet

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on November 02, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
They're probably in the "absolute Truth" section, along with the Koran, the Bhaghadvat-Gita and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. 

In all fairness, I think the Hitchhiker's Guide belongs there.
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.