Incident at amusement park involving muslims

[Whitney]

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?77005-News-muslim-sisters-banned-from-amusement-park-ride

"The more islamophobic westerners get, the more stupid muslims become."

Pretty much all I would say.

Ooookay. >>
Why link to another forum?

I think it was to demonstrate how Muslims not related to the group at the amusement park are responding to the event.  (and because what he quoted was directly from that forum so he kinda had to cite it).

[Sweetdeath]

I hate Muzlims.


Now I feel like part of this group.

No one hates muslims. Just think It's idiotic to make a big deal about a garment. Hnnn. *eye roll*

[Whitney]

I hate Muzlims.


Now I feel like part of this group.

What group?

[Sweetdeath]

I'm not sure what group she means either.  No onr in this forum promoted or encourages hatred of any group/race.

Medusa, your "humor" is really uncalled for sometimes.  You're being off topic as well.

[Medusa]

I'm not sure what group she means either.  No onr in this forum promoted or encourages hatred of any group/race.

Medusa, your "humor" is really uncalled for sometimes.  You're being off topic as well.

me thinks we should invent a religion that allows us to do and wear whatever we want, and claim religious discrimination whenever anyone tries to stop us...

I'm for it. Especially since there's good money in starting a religion.

This is true. XD
I'll sue if I can't wear my unicorn horn!

Because unicorns are on topic.

I've seen women in full burka gear rocking it out on the rides next to me at Disneyland.

[Sweetdeath]

Ok, but this park had a rule against wearing their scarves.   Most parks have the hat policy.  At least every theme park i've been to.

They need to deal with it, because it is a safety concern for not just themselves.

[Medusa]

I hate Muzlims.


Now I feel like part of this group.

Just think It's idiotic to make a big deal about a garment. Hnnn. *eye roll*

1) I agree safety comes first. If it's in the rules, it's in the rules.
2) I do think things were over reacted on both ends. Seriously. If you can't get on that ride then get on another ride.



3) The statement I quoted bothers me in a very general sense. Not picking on Sweets for saying it. But it's a common assumption. It's just a scarf. Big fucking deal. I just don't get it. Well you wouldn't. You aren't Muslim. But what bothers me is that there is a big portion of the world thinking Muslim women are oppressed to the T with HAVING to be FORCED to wear such an oppressive garment. Yet they seem to go to the death to make sure it's not taken away from them. The world can't just have it both ways. You can't be oppressed and fight adamantly for your right to wear an oppressed item.

[Whitney]

Should I take your non-response to my question to mean that you were referring to HAF members when saying "the group"?  if so, I'll thank you to not accuse people of having a view they don't hold.  Not a single person in this thread has expressed hatred towards muslims.  I'll remind you that this isn't the first time you've tried to push the word hate on someone who doesn't have it.

[Medusa]

Should I take your non-response to my question to mean that you were referring to HAF members when saying "the group"?  if so, I'll thank you to not accuse people of having a view they don't hold.  Not a single person in this thread has expressed hatred towards muslims.  I'll remind you that this isn't the first time you've tried to push the word hate on someone who doesn't have it.

I was making a joke as to the tone of this thread. In fact after reading the replies I jumped back into the conversation and explained my position.

[Sweetdeath]

Welp, I will say that I don't know much about muslim women   or culture, so I can't accurately give you a response about that.

This thread is ony about how it shouldnt be a big deal to follow the no hats on rides policy.  Muslim women have made a big deal about their garments before, as I said af police highway checkpoints.  It seems as if police and muslims clash a lot on such a crazy thing like fabric... X_x

[Whitney]

Should I take your non-response to my question to mean that you were referring to HAF members when saying "the group"?  if so, I'll thank you to not accuse people of having a view they don't hold.  Not a single person in this thread has expressed hatred towards muslims.  I'll remind you that this isn't the first time you've tried to push the word hate on someone who doesn't have it.

I was making a joke as to the tone of this thread. In fact after reading the replies I jumped back into the conversation and explained my position.

I don't think anyone got the joke. 

[Too Few Lions]

"The more islamophobic westerners get, the more stupid muslims become."

Pretty much all I would say.

there's nothing Islamophobic about enforcing health and safety rules (and no, I don't hate Muslims...)

[Tank]

I hate Muzlims.


Now I feel like part of this group.

I hate Muzlims too! Damb those 'mercan Muslims!

[Tank]

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?77005-News-muslim-sisters-banned-from-amusement-park-ride

"The more islamophobic westerners get, the more stupid muslims become."

Pretty much all I would say.

The fact that 1:1,000 (or less) Muslims are nutters is what gets Muslims a bad name, it shouldn't, but it does, that's just human group think for you. In fact with 1,300,000,000 Muslims around it would only need 1:10,000 (or 0.01%) to be a nutter to give 130,000 fanatics, and they are the one's that take Jihad too far or believe too hard and think they are driven by Allah to kill.

I don't hate Muslims, but I do 'hate' Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism etc because they are all world views based on historical superstition and the assumption that a god or gods exists. Thus they hold humanity back from understanding what it truly is, an evolved creature. Evolution is pragmatic, not perfect, it has no aim or moral centre or ethical standards. Natural selection simply and brutally selects out those individuals in a group less able to reproduce, that's it, nothing more. Believing that there is a great big sky daddy that knows what's going on and will eventually make things all better is a stupid, stupid, way to behave. It's the ultimate cop-out from responsibility, the ultimate cowardice in the face of reality.

Humainity has to grow up and leave its childhood fairy stories behind and take full responsibility for its actions both individually and collectively and the first step is to flush belief for its own sake and faith down the toilet. ISoK you can't even effectivly define what your god is!

[iSok]

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?77005-News-muslim-sisters-banned-from-amusement-park-ride

"The more islamophobic westerners get, the more stupid muslims become."

Pretty much all I would say.

The fact that 1:1,000 (or less) Muslims are nutters is what gets Muslims a bad name, it shouldn't, but it does, that's just human group think for you. In fact with 1,300,000,000 Muslims around it would only need 1:10,000 (or 0.01%) to be a nutter to give 130,000 fanatics, and they are the one's that take Jihad too far or believe too hard and think they are driven by Allah to kill.

I don't hate Muslims, but I do 'hate' Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism etc because they are all world views based on historical superstition and the assumption that a god or gods exists. Thus they hold humanity back from understanding what it truly is, an evolved creature. Evolution is pragmatic, not perfect, it has no aim or moral centre or ethical standards. Natural selection simply and brutally selects out those individuals in a group less able to reproduce, that's it, nothing more. Believing that there is a great big sky daddy that knows what's going on and will eventually make things all better is a stupid, stupid, way to behave. It's the ultimate cop-out from responsibility, the ultimate cowardice in the face of reality.

Humainity has to grow up and leave its childhood fairy stories behind and take full responsibility for its actions both individually and collectively and the first step is to flush belief for its own sake and faith down the toilet. ISoK you can't even effectivly define what your god is!

We've had this discussion before...I can't define God and especially not in the way of the scientific method.


Tank, but I would love to start debating this with you.
Lets start with the following questions: What do you see as progress? What responsibilities do we have?