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Bible Slavery v. American Slavery

Started by Crow, August 18, 2011, 06:47:48 PM

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Medusa

I'm still trying to figure out the differences between bible time slavery and civil war time slavery. ???
She has the blood of reptile....just underneath her skin...

Black36

Quote from: Sweetdeath on August 27, 2011, 11:53:18 PM
What the crap?
God allows famine, murder and slavery because of sin?
That is so fucked up, it's insane.  

Why? On what grounds is God obliged to stop such? Your grounds?

Black36

Quote from: Medusa on August 28, 2011, 12:27:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the differences between bible time slavery and civil war time slavery. ???
Well then, you need to read scripture.

Whitney

Quote from: Medusa on August 28, 2011, 12:27:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the differences between bible time slavery and civil war time slavery. ???

The only diff is biblically owners couldn't beat their slaves to death, had to use a certain size of stick for beating, and citicen slaves were released after 7 years.

Ya...I don't think that is a very big difference either...especially considering that in war situations women were taken in as forced "wives"; today we'd call it sex slavery.

Sweetdeath



Quote from: Black36 on August 28, 2011, 12:33:07 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on August 27, 2011, 11:53:18 PM
What the crap?
God allows famine, murder and slavery because of sin?
That is so fucked up, it's insane.  

Why? On what grounds is God obliged to stop such? Your grounds?

Yup.  :D
because I said so. He is a meanie~
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: Black36 on August 28, 2011, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: Medusa on August 28, 2011, 12:27:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the differences between bible time slavery and civil war time slavery. ???
Well then, you need to read scripture.

If civil war slave owners had said that they were divenely justified in owning slaves or if they had found some scriptural basis for legitimately owning people, would that make any difference? 

Do you consider it to be wrong to own slaves nowadays?
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Black36

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 28, 2011, 01:53:30 AM
Quote from: Black36 on August 28, 2011, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: Medusa on August 28, 2011, 12:27:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the differences between bible time slavery and civil war time slavery. ???
Well then, you need to read scripture.

If civil war slave owners had said that they were divenely justified in owning slaves or if they had found some scriptural basis for legitimately owning people, would that make any difference? 

Do you consider it to be wrong to own slaves nowadays?
Civil war slave owners were not Biblical Israelites, so such an argument coming from them would complete bolonga.

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: Black36 on August 28, 2011, 02:06:10 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 28, 2011, 01:53:30 AM
Quote from: Black36 on August 28, 2011, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: Medusa on August 28, 2011, 12:27:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the differences between bible time slavery and civil war time slavery. ???
Well then, you need to read scripture.

If civil war slave owners had said that they were divenely justified in owning slaves or if they had found some scriptural basis for legitimately owning people, would that make any difference? 

Do you consider it to be wrong to own slaves nowadays?
Civil war slave owners were not Biblical Israelites, so such an argument coming from them would complete bolonga.

And what do you think about slavery nowadays? is it acceptable?

If god told you that your family had to be enslaved because someone else (or they) had sinned, would you willingly accept it?
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Medusa

Quote from: Black36 on August 28, 2011, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: Medusa on August 28, 2011, 12:27:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the differences between bible time slavery and civil war time slavery. ???
Well then, you need to read scripture.
I'm lazy. YOU said there was a difference. I would like to know what YOU think those differences are. Since it's YOUR assumption. So how about that list? Can you tell us the differences? Hey,  you obviously read the scriptures so this should be a piece of cake for you.

I know all my info in my Satanic book. I wouldn't claim something from it then demand you go read it to figure it out.
She has the blood of reptile....just underneath her skin...

The Magic Pudding

#84
Damn I've posted something in the wrong thread and the delete button is no more.

Long time prisoners can become institutionalised and fear the wide world, same with some slaves I suppose.

Sweetdeath


Quote from: Medusa on August 28, 2011, 03:18:53 AM
Quote from: Black36 on August 28, 2011, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: Medusa on August 28, 2011, 12:27:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the differences between bible time slavery and civil war time slavery. ???
Well then, you need to read scripture.
I'm lazy. YOU said there was a difference. I would like to know what YOU think those differences are. Since it's YOUR assumption. So how about that list? Can you tell us the differences? Hey,  you obviously read the scriptures so this should be a piece of cake for you.

I know all my info in my Satanic book. I wouldn't claim something from it then demand you go read it to figure it out.
^This.
Medusa is correct. So far you haven't provided us with a single decent response.  Just honestly seems like trolling.
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

Ihateyoumike

Quote from: xSilverPhinx
Do you consider it to be wrong to own slaves nowadays?
Quote from: xSilverPhinxAnd what do you think about slavery nowadays? is it acceptable?

I sure am glad to see others starting to realize the trollish nature of black36's postings here. Answering questions with typically off topic questions, and continually changing the subject when confronted with logic that he can't debate. It's been his M.O. Since he joined.

Hey black36, xSilverPhinx up there keeps asking you the same question. It's a very good question that seems like it should be easy to answer. Hell, simple yes or no will suffice. Show the forum some respect, and maybe change some minds on your trollishness in the process, and answer the question.
Prayers that need no answer now, cause I'm tired of who I am
You were my greatest mistake, I fell in love with your sin
Your littlest sin.

DeterminedJuliet

I also agree, this poster has troll written all over him.
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

Cforcerunner

Quote from: Crow on August 18, 2011, 06:47:48 PM


What is your stance on slavery? as the bible is quite clear that it is acceptable. In my opinion it is one of, if not the most immoral action a person can partake in.

Edit: not only is slavery acceptable in the bible but endorsed in the new and old testaments.

I can understand your interpretation of Paul's account on slavery. Instructing slave's to be obedient to their masters and masters to treat slaves in fairness. It's clear Paul acknowledges  slavery as it was in his time, which is was a cultural norm. However, there is a difference between Paul "failing to condemn" and "accept".

But Christianity "endorsing" slavery? How many slaves did Jesus have?

Tank

Quote from: Cforcerunner on August 29, 2011, 12:24:09 AM
Quote from: Crow on August 18, 2011, 06:47:48 PM


What is your stance on slavery? as the bible is quite clear that it is acceptable. In my opinion it is one of, if not the most immoral action a person can partake in.

Edit: not only is slavery acceptable in the bible but endorsed in the new and old testaments.

I can understand your interpretation of Paul's account on slavery. Instructing slave's to be obedient to their masters and masters to treat slaves in fairness. It's clear Paul acknowledges  slavery as it was in his time, which is was a cultural norm. However, there is a difference between Paul "failing to condemn" and "accept".

But Christianity "endorsing" slavery? How many slaves did Jesus have?
The highlighted element of your reply indicates that the actions of Jesus trump Christian dogma and doctrine. Is this your position?
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