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Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

Started by Tank, August 15, 2011, 06:06:03 PM

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Tank

Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

Quote(PhysOrg.com) -- One of the biggest unsolved problems in astrophysics is that galaxies and galaxy clusters rotate faster than expected, given the amount of existing baryonic (normal) matter. The fast orbits require a larger central mass than the nearby stars, dust, and other baryonic objects can provide, leading scientists to propose that every galaxy resides in a halo of (as yet undetectable) dark matter made of non-baryonic particles. As one of many scientists who have become somewhat skeptical of dark matter, CERN physicist Dragan Slavkov Hajdukovic has proposed that the illusion of dark matter may be caused by the gravitational polarization of the quantum vacuum.

Dark Matter was a placeholder name/concept created when physicists and astronomers couldn't square what they could see (galaxies rotating too fast) with what the knew about gravity. IF the hypothesis dealt with in the article is correct then Dark Matter does not exist and our understanding of antimatter will be improved as a result of the research undertaken to verify the hypothesis irrespective of the accuracy of the hypothesis.
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DeterminedJuliet

Quote from: Tank on August 15, 2011, 06:06:03 PM
Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

Quote(PhysOrg.com) -- One of the biggest unsolved problems in astrophysics is that galaxies and galaxy clusters rotate faster than expected, given the amount of existing baryonic (normal) matter. The fast orbits require a larger central mass than the nearby stars, dust, and other baryonic objects can provide, leading scientists to propose that every galaxy resides in a halo of (as yet undetectable) dark matter made of non-baryonic particles. As one of many scientists who have become somewhat skeptical of dark matter, CERN physicist Dragan Slavkov Hajdukovic has proposed that the illusion of dark matter may be caused by the gravitational polarization of the quantum vacuum.

Dark Matter was a placeholder name/concept created when physicists and astronomers couldn't square what they could see (galaxies rotating too fast) with what the knew about gravity. IF the hypothesis dealt with in the article is correct then Dark Matter does not exist and our understanding of antimatter will be improved as a result of the research undertaken to verify the hypothesis irrespective of the accuracy of the hypothesis.

Very interesting! Thanks! :)
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fester30

See?  This shows that science is obviously a bunch of hooey.  God wins!

Evilbeagle

LOL
Dark matter is a result of too much lunch time drinking by physicists  ;D
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OldGit

^ Right!  All sorts of stuff gets brought up when an astrophysicist has had a few jars.  ;D

fester30

Or when they smoke weed...  hmm what if the gravitational constant was instead the gravitational chaotic variable?

xSilverPhinx

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This dark matter thing always looked more like a big question mark to me than anything (though i can't say with absolute confidence - I'm a complete layperson) disguised as a convienient answer...especially since there's so much that isn't known or understood about gravity.

I find black holes to be more interesting, though ;D and wonder if they share something interesting in common with dark matter.
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Stevil

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 20, 2011, 03:54:49 PM
I find black holes to be more interesting, though ;D and wonder if they share something interesting in common with dark matter.
I feel logically speaking (well, my logic anyway) that black holes are fundamental tools of the universe.
Without black holes we probably wouldn't have galaxies, they tend to be orbiting them.
I feel the universe came from a black hole, so feel black holes are necessary to collect enough energy/matter in order to start a big bang.

Things I don't agree with:
Black holes and the beginning of the universe consist of a singularity. By my logic it is impossible to have a singularity, giving the infinite density problem. I also feel that all of reality must be in 3 dimensions, anything more or less is absurd.
The problem of the speed of light limitation and the fact that light cannot escape the event horizon of a black hole. So how can a universe have exploded from a black hole if energy/matter needs to go faster than the speed of light just to get out? I think inside a black hole, when it gets big enough and compressed enough, particles get broken down so much that they are no longer particles (note that light is particles), this non particle energy must be able to travel faster than the speed of light, it must, otherwise we wouldn't be here. Space would simply consist of many black holes and that would be it.

But then again, pure conjecture, I'm no scientist.

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: Stevil on August 20, 2011, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 20, 2011, 03:54:49 PM
I find black holes to be more interesting, though ;D and wonder if they share something interesting in common with dark matter.
I feel logically speaking (well, my logic anyway) that black holes are fundamental tools of the universe.
Without black holes we probably wouldn't have galaxies, they tend to be orbiting them.
I feel the universe came from a black hole, so feel black holes are necessary to collect enough energy/matter in order to start a big bang.

Things I don't agree with:
Black holes and the beginning of the universe consist of a singularity. By my logic it is impossible to have a singularity, giving the infinite density problem. I also feel that all of reality must be in 3 dimensions, anything more or less is absurd.
The problem of the speed of light limitation and the fact that light cannot escape the event horizon of a black hole. So how can a universe have exploded from a black hole if energy/matter needs to go faster than the speed of light just to get out? I think inside a black hole, when it gets big enough and compressed enough, particles get broken down so much that they are no longer particles (note that light is particles), this non particle energy must be able to travel faster than the speed of light, it must, otherwise we wouldn't be here. Space would simply consist of many black holes and that would be it.

But then again, pure conjecture, I'm no scientist.


There are some hypotheses that say that our universe may be inside a black hole, or contained within the wormhole beyond the singularity.

The singularity, as the physics themselves say, is just another way of mathematically saying that they don't know exactly what's going on. The maths basically breaks down...infinite density is another big question mark.   

About the dimensions, there are a few people who say that the world only consists of one dimension ??? and that the other two spatial dimensions are just an illusion.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/are-there-more-than-three-dimensions/


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