Terrorist attack in Oslo

[Ali]

Is it even possible to not be a (some times) shitty parent? 

[En_Route]

Is it even possible to not be a (some times) shitty parent? 

I would distinguish between a shitty parent and a non- shitty parent who sometimes acts shittily.

[Asmodean]

All parents screw up all children. And yes, The Asmo did just quote House.

In any case, I think it would take quite a lot of fail on the parents' and even the support system's part to make a mass murderer by themselves. You see, screwed up people tend to sort of... Screw up themselves worse than any one could ever screw them up.

[Ali]

True.  I think I'm cranky because I just read an article about common things that parents say that they shouldn't.  Like "Say you're sorry" when the child does something apology-worthy.  I've already forgotten why, but apparently the "correct" action is to apologize on behalf of the child in front of the child to model something or another.  Also wrong, sending the child to his/her room when they've been naughty, as you don't want the child to associate their room with negativity.  I grow weary of feeling like every single thing that you can do is or could be or will be at some point "wrong" according to some "expert."  But I suspect that's a different thing than the "shitty parenting" that may or not lead to mass murder (or anyway, I hope so.  I fervently hope that in 20 years T isn't on TV stating that he went on a killing spree because I sometimes made him apologize to people and sent him to his room when his behavior was unfit for civil company.)

[Buddy]

True.  I think I'm cranky because I just read an article about common things that parents say that they shouldn't.  Like "Say you're sorry" when the child does something apology-worthy.  I've already forgotten why, but apparently the "correct" action is to apologize on behalf of the child in front of the child to model something or another.  Also wrong, sending the child to his/her room when they've been naughty, as you don't want the child to associate their room with negativity.  I grow weary of feeling like every single thing that you can do is or could be or will be at some point "wrong" according to some "expert."  But I suspect that's a different thing than the "shitty parenting" that may or not lead to mass murder (or anyway, I hope so.  I fervently hope that in 20 years T isn't on TV stating that he went on a killing spree because I sometimes made him apologize to people and sent him to his room when his behavior was unfit for civil company.)

Geeze, I totally disagree with that. My mother made me apologize or sent me to my room when I did something wrong, and I didn't turn out to be a mass murderer. Heck, I am thankful my mother was strict with my brother and me as children. I feel like it made us more respectful people.

Having a child associate their room with negativity is just stupid, especially with all of their toys and their bed that makes is a good thing.

[Asmodean]

I'm of a different opinion on that issue - I'm quite happy with my upbringing not being strict at all. As a result, I can claim my moral compass to be largely calibrated by me and my sense of honor and integrity largely derived from my own interpretation of the consequences of choices I and those around me have made.

[Sweetdeath]

I'm of a different opinion on that issue - I'm quite happy with my upbringing not being strict at all. As a result, I can claim my moral compass to be largely calibrated by me and my sense of honor and integrity largely derived from my own interpretation of the consequences of choices I and those around me have made.

Same here. I raised myself since 12, so everything i do, i have to take  responsibility for. I actually kind of like that.

i learn from my own mistakes.