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Do celebrities really believe in god ???

Started by atheist, May 28, 2011, 08:27:15 PM

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atheist

@Stevil
1.sure !!he's covering his authority with the religion,he makes himself sacral so no one can say anything against him
2.that's impossible and there are no guarantees he won't lie to me


atheist


atheist

#17
If you guys think that religion has no influence on people and there is no reason for a religion and no one has a gain from religion,than you either  believe in god or absolutely don't care about what happens around you  :-[

Sweetdeath

I thought Justin Beiber was 16? Anyway, religious people are lemmings anyway. I can sadly see someone converting to whatever religion to be like a celebirty.

My only real wish is that logic over throws religion in the near future. Maybe then we can evolve as a society, and stop living day to day by a man made out-dated fairytale book.
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

atheist

@Sweetdeath
yeah,exactly !:P
however,i think if the religion thing would stop working there'll be a chaos on the planet and people would turn to what they should be-animals !

Stevil

Quote from: atheist on May 28, 2011, 10:58:04 PM
however,i think if the religion thing would stop working there'll be a chaos on the planet and people would turn to what they should be-animals !

We are already animals, with or without religion.
Lack of religion creates chaos on the planet? I haven't heard that one before. Oh well, thankfully we have religion then, unless of course, you want chaos.

Sweetdeath

How the fuck does lack of religion create chaos?

Have you ever heard of the Crusades?

Suicide bombers in the middle east?

People kill in the name of their God everyday.

If anything, we would be a better species without it. Then people wouldn't gay bash or be against fucking same sex marriage or birth control. I can't believe people believe in a religion that bans birth control.
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

atheist

@Stevil
what makes you not to kill your boss or just not to grab food in a grocery store ?what was making you to study stupid subjects at school ?hehe
by chaos i mean a biological extinction and no such stuff as government,Pope,culture,...nothing
i think that ppl only pretend to like Beethoven's music,or famous pictures ,everything.hypocrites ^^

xSilverPhinx

Quotewhat makes you not to kill your boss or just not to grab food in a grocery store ?what was making you to study stupid subjects at school ?

Why don't you answer that yourself?
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


atheist

#24
@Sweetdeath
Religious activists.they're just pawns in hands of politicians .why would somebody kill himself on a war ?were thousands of people that stupid to sacrifice their lives ?
-no,nobody  would ever agree with that The answer is RELIGION(brainwash,serious brainwash)
and there are reasons for all those religious suicides(behind religion),it's all about developed countries exploit their resources(unfair) .but it's ok bc the life is not fair :P

atheist

@xSilverPhinx
because i wanted to make a dialog here,the answer is religion,are you happy now ?:P

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: atheist on May 28, 2011, 10:14:16 PM
@ xSilverPhinx
it's when you're not self confident enough to convince yourself dat there is no god and your statements against god are weak,so when you hear someone says like "ooo,u know man,god really helped me" or hear any other bullshit somewhere.After this you get to the weird condition .all the times you think  whether the god exists or not and that ruins your life,you can't do a job,can't study,fail to communicate with people and so on :P you become explaining things as something supernatural and allays fail to do anything=become loser !!
PS maybe that only touches left-handed people,i dunno ^^ :'(

Well for starters I think you read a bit, check out other threads on this forum that address reason why we don't believe in gods and see for yourself whether you think they make sense or are convincing.

If other people are saying that god helped them, the burden is on them to prove it, you don't have to feel bad or insecure because you can't prove that they're wrong. You could ask them how they really know for sure that it was a god or if it was just coincidence, for instance.

Do you really believe that no gods exist or do you just keep telling yourself that because you don't like religious belief systems?

What was your deconversion like? What did you believe before that?

(P.S. left handed people were believed to be of the devil some time back ;) )
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


xSilverPhinx

Quote from: atheist on May 28, 2011, 11:27:56 PM
@xSilverPhinx
because i wanted to make a dialog here,the answer is religion,are you happy now ?:P

I'm actually being serious...what do YOU think are the answers to those same questions you asked?

You said yourself that you thought your arguments against god and religion were weak, so...

If religion is a system, is it possible that other systems that don't have gods in them couldn't possibly account for some things that religions claim exclusiveness for?
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Stevil

Quote from: atheist on May 28, 2011, 11:16:31 PM
i think that ppl only pretend to like Beethoven's music
What about heavy metal music, are people only pretending to like that?
What about the haters, are they pretending also?

Who's for real?

atheist

@ xSilverPhinx
i'll be serious now. until i was 16 i was a Christian,i grow up in really really religious surroundings,every week my aunt was taking me to church,i was listening to  wonderful stories from old+poor people who had something bad in their lives before.and i was really religious,i couldn't live normally,if i talked with someone i was praying to god to let me be cool in someones eyes,protect me from bullies at school and so on...:PP
i think i had an overreaction from religion,may be because im left handed(so my right brain dominates .. witch responses for an imagination)
i think that  my religion  simply collapsed at the age of 16.i felt like i tyred of asking god and always been a loser(not really,but a lot),and then i become an atheist.it's really cool to be an atheist
thats my story ::)